Replicants 2017 Figures Comanche Indians as we mention in our article on the Plastic Warrior Show Replicants has done four new figures. They are Comanche Indians.
Replicants 2017 Figures Comanche Indians the Poses
The poses are as follow.
Charging with tomahawk and shield. Wearing a buffalo headdress
Standing firing bow
Comanche Indian with knife and scalp standing over dead person.
Kneeling firing rifle
Please note the figures will come unpainted. We are waiting to hear from Steve Weston on a price.
Update the Indians are 8 pounds of $10.40 for the set. You can order them from Steve Weston at his site.
Great figures! I hope there will be a companion set of Texas Rangers. These will go well with my other 54mm western stuff.
Good suggestion
Ugh ! I’ll pass.
Great poses depictions but I say before in other post, two are very as GUN HO.
Not much impressive to me.
Any how a great addition.
Best..
Bill loves him some Replicants.
I like the idea of Indian (Native American, yes, yes. I know.) toy soldiers that represent specific tribes. So far, we have not really had any tribal specific plastic toy Indians that have been truly historically researched except for the Gun Ho, Paragon and Replicant Apaches. (Atlantic Apaches & Sioux were the spaghetti western versions of the tribes.)
The excellent TSSD Indian figures are kind of a mixed bag as far as tribal types, with various figures sporting hairstyles of Sioux, Crow and others. The TSSD figures do make for great generic Plains Indians.
These Replicant figures authentically represent the look and style of the Comanches of Texas. They are most apt for the earlier pre-Civil War era of conflict with the Texas Rangers and Mexico. Later Comanche warriors of the 1870s wars against the US Army would probably have a little bit more white-influenced clothing style, like cloth shirts and leggings, and more firearms, although Comanche often scorned the use of guns later than other tribes.
I like these figures very much. My favorite is the man with the buffalo headdress. Interestingly, while at first you might think his tomahawk is bent too far, historically, the Comanche would use the lower tail (closest to the body) of the buffalo to make the haft of their axes. This would be dried and wrapped in rawhide and would give the club extra flexibility to add impact when the weapon was swung.
Thank you Mark, that’s exactly the weapon Replicants intended it to be, and I expected someone to say it was “bent too far”. It’s worth saying that Peter Cole only uses books by reputable authors and illustrations from respected sources when researching the figures he makes.
Replicants are the most, if not the only, historically accurate figures available today. CSA Horse Holder was the first non-vintage figure I ever bought. I now treasure my Replicants as much as my old Marx. 2nd smugglers set with guy with torch are probably my favorites. Weston cattle drive is also high on my list.
Mark T
WOW!!.
Interesting explanation you got there ,never red before .Thank you for details of the Comanche tomahawk
Regarding Indians depictions. I think the lack of evidence and museum till way after 70s when most Indian museum start collection real evidence were I bad impact and influence in toy soldier figures design in the Indian tribes, same way affect Hollywood.
So back in 40 till 70s was poor information regarding it and also most figures were made x children.
Yet today makers are still making mistakes in Indians as you well say.
I think it was Barzso the first original pioneer of entire tribes in correct historical research data and dress weapons used but not quite plastic as were in resin .
AIP sets are well done too
In vintage there several brand complete sets well done of specific tribes from European marks. French ,Italian and some Spaniards sets are well done as well but way less known.
Not counting the pre-Columbian era sets made most by Spain and France brands.
Cofalu swopped Hurons are amazing ,I will pull then x pic soon,,
Crescent Hurons are well done but their weapons are way modern by time they not longer exist as tribe.
Herald Huron type too are well done but again their weapons are mix, same for the BB and Hong Kong copies and derivate sets.
I agree in TSSD and even last Russian PL expensive golden Indian sets are a mix of poses.
This hobby had become more pro historical detail as made of most not youngers or children and require more accuracy by makers.
Yet Hollywood still today make horrible mistakes. In last bad version-(By my like) the “seven mag” film ..the Comanche warrior is represented with a very non typical Comanche hair style ,clothing and long bow …..Yet it was priced because he spoke Comanche words in film. OH well..
And general your comments have a great value valid point that should be considered by those making Indian sets around still and hobby.
best regards
Erwin, this is slightly off topic for a toy soldier board, but I figure if anyone on earth knows about this toy line, it would be you.
When I was a small boy in Ottawa, Canada, in the late 60s and early 70s, there was a department store downtown that stocked many toys specially imported from Europe. They had the forts from Jean Hoefler, and some Spanish and Italian western playsets, too.
They also carried a line of imported toy Indian weaponry. You would get a large flat cardboard box, open at the front with a cellophane cover, printed with “Indian” pictures and designs and a tomahawk, a knife and a shield inside. The toy weapons were made of hard rubber, I believe. Each one was labeled with the name of a different tribe. I think it was a Spanish company, as the names were like this: “Tribu Apache”, “Tribu Sioux”, “Tribu Comanche”, “Tribu Cheyenne” etc. and “tribu” is the Spanish word for tribe.
Of course the designs were totally imaginary and not actual historical tribal designs, but the whole line was very interesting to me as a 4 or 5 year old. My mother did not let me play with toy weapons (Toy soldiers were OK as long as they were pre-1900) so I never got any. I have always wondered about those sets and would love to see pictures of them, but I have no idea where exactly they came from.
Do these sound familiar to you or to anyone else?
Mark for some reason I had seen those sets listed before in others sites .But to be honest not idea of maker.
Now I had see then in france site and the word tribu spell same in french too.
Would packing be in spanish correct spelling woul be .
La tribu…..In my opinion as I do write and speak it.
But again it could had well be either or .
I WILL do some research using spanish sites and see.
Best.
You are probably right, Erwin. They probably are from a French maker. It’s just that it has been almost half a century and my French awareness from Canada has been replaced by Spanish awareness from my current home. If you ever come across a picture of any of these sets, I would really like to see a link.
If I had the Crescent Hurons with their more modern weapons, I would probably use them as Pawnee scouts. I can’t wait to see your pictures of the Cofalu set.
I agree about the new Magnificent Seven. I was very bored by it. One of the first gripes I had was the Comanche with the Mohawk/Pawnee hairstyle.
Mar T .
Yes good idea x the Crescents Huron’s. I will do same with Herald-HK figures too ,too bad I never got time x conversion.
I like add LINDE company did a complete same tribe Indian set of least 16 poses in action plus camp poses .Some of the poses were copied by DOMPLASITICK or other way around I think as correct history of factory design should be…
And released with out same mark in base .Two Italian brands (still around in packs-PRB and CRO) sold the Dom plastic copies poses and a set of 3 mounted that I can tell who they are original from.
The LINDE,DOM and Italian sets poses are not that hard to find, However LINDE marked figures are high priced if in GOOD shape.
Layla Indian 6 poses set are all same tribe as well.
German have a long history pre 1920 of making western figures ,since early composition by ELASTOLIN,Merten and others they excel in true realist detail depiction of American natives tribes. The tradition continued in to plastic even by former DDR-east Germany brands .
As children I was expose to DDR plastic-rubber figures and was shock and impress of the good depiction by some brands -most painted of course.
While in west Germany Jean Hoefler and others did more split tribes sets in not full realistic configuration.
Yet most did the central and northern plain tribes while the eastern and south tribes had been more neglected in most brands.
Florida and Georgian tribes had been complete forgotten by most.
For full sets of above sets if interesting just send me an email…
best..
Germans learned about American West from the stories of Karl May. The movies and television very likely influence the figures made in the United States. Marx 54mm figures were a mix of tribes.
The movies have really been a big influence on Indian figures.
You’ve noticed how many pre-70s toy Indians have headbands? That is a direct Hollywood influence right there. Plains tribes never wore headbands. Maybe one or two guys would have one, but it was rare. Apaches had those wide cloth almost turban-like headbands in reality, but the plains tribes just wore their hair braided or loose with feathers or a headdress or buffalo hat.
The reason for headbands depicted on all Indians is that Hollywood stuntmen playing Indians needed something to keep their wigs on their heads while riding!
Erwin, I would really like to see those pictures of the sets. I will email you when I get home.
I heard a historian on Saturday discussing the Mexican American War and Texas acquisition. He said, “All I’m going to say about Comanches is they pushed the Apaches out of Texas.”
Let the raiding on the Texicans begin. I can think of several scenarios using Alamo figures from either side and the Comanches. I can’t tell what the rifle is from the photo detail. Is it percussion, flintlock or Henry/Winchester?
Yeah, the Comanche really put the “Native Americans as innocent victims” theory to the test! Anyone who can displace the Apaches… Wow!
The rifle looks like either a percussion or flintlock. I think these figures are definitely pre-1860s but could easily serve later in a pinch.
You know a figure that makes a perfect early Texas Comanche? The Airfix guy with the buffalo headdress and flintlock. He is the rust colored one near the top.
http://thumbs2.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/112125470177_/AIRFIX-AMERICAN-WEST-SERIES-1-32-PAINTED-INDIANS.jpg
He’s such a cool figure that TSSD paid homage to him with a close remake in their Indian set 1.
I always thought the Airfix cowboys and Indians were among their best figures; I always get a bit sad when I see the Hong Kong knockoffs abounding in stores and think of the way they’ve become sort of generic because of it. But that’s happened to a lot of theirs sets, I guess.
I do agree they were Airfix’s best. I wish they had remade their 1/72 western sets to match the wonderful 1/32 sets.
The knockoffs are totally disgusting, and every few years the quality gets worse. I saw a bag of Airfix western clones a while ago in Dollar Tree that were about 45 mm and basically scrawny, spindly blobs, that had the same poses as the Airfix guys. The older 1990s Airfix clones look like originals by comparison.
Couldn’t agree more, Mark. I have the Airfix 1/72 cowboys and Indians, too. Very disappointed. I suppose they never saw the need to update them as they did most of their early WW2 sets.
Comanches and Apaches were in war long before the Spaniards fought then before any American settler fought then as well of course .
In reality Comanche were taking land of apaches as apaches were being destroyed by Spaniards settlers and others tribes too since 1650 .Regardless both tribes were seminomadic and did not have actual land stablished moving from territory to territory during years and centuries. Is more complicated that what it seems to resume in few words what happen and both tribes often mix with others not quite their own in alliances else often confusing historian in the actual tribe taking parts in region or actions .
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There were very early copies of Airfix in the 80s and those by size and detail are almost identical I have some of then,mine are red rust mate colors x Indians
Now there was some one who actually almost cloned the Airfix cowboys and Indians in blue and sold in a playset by brand (Toy Street) same brand that sold the MPC US cavalry-Indians with fort and some Marx recast acce mix .
These Airfix CLONED figures were not made in HK or china as far I know because not market at all .
Unfortunately I sold this playset long ago at a show ,still I had seen then around on eBay some times .
Best…
That Airfix figure is great! He would match up nicely with the Replicants. Thanks for sharing the photo, Mark.
Many years ago there was a guy selling cellophane bags of Airfix Cowboys and Indians in identical colors to the original issues. The figures were just a tiny bit smaller than the originals and the quality was excellent.
Paul, the guy was at the Amish mans flea market, but it wasn’t him. A different vendor.
He had hundreds, if not thousands, of plain cello bags with a single staple at the top.
I seem to recall the they were 5 bags for a buck.
Cheaper, if you bought 50 bags, like I did.
25 of each.
These smaller Airfix copies went perfectly with the Marx Fort Dearborn 45 mm figures. In fact, I cut up dozens of recast 45 m Dearborn figures and these Airfix copies, and made loads of conversions from them
Later on, I discovered that these same bags were included in a cheap western playset with a cardboard fort and some cardboard cut out scenery pieces. I seem to remember a cardboard wagon also. I know that I bought it at Toys R Us.
Anyone recall it? May have been HG?
Erwin Yes, the Indians are in a rust color. They look great with Marx rust Indians.
Has anyone seen or heard any more on the new Replicants Comanche Indians?
Nothing on Steve Weston’s site yet.