More Photos of the No Name Greek Figures shows us more photos of these figures. These photos are from our very good friend Andrey from Russia. Andrey tells us that the shields are removable but can not be switch between figures. This is because the figures have different attachment systems.
More Photos of the No Name Greek Figures Photos
Here is once again the five different Greeks.
Here is a closeup of the Greek standing with spear and shield. You can see how detailed the figure is.
Another closeup this time it is the Greek advancing with sword with shield.
More Photos of the No Name Greek Figures Comparsion
The next series of photos compare No Name Greeks with other figure companies.
The first comparsion photo show No Name Greek figure with Atlantic Greek figure. You can see these two figures will fit together.
The next comparsion photo is a No Name Greek with Conte Collectibles Trojan. These figures will be a great addition to your ancient army.
The next comparsion photo answers the question will the No Name Greek will work with the Expeditionary Force Anicent Figures. I feel this photo answers that question. What do you think?
This last comparsion photo is a Toyway Greek with spear and shield against the No Name Greek standing with sword and spear. The Toyway Greek which is part of their Heroic Range is slightly smaller but I thinkl both can work together.
More Photos of the No Name Greek Figures Final Thoughts
As I said on our previous posting these figures will be a great addition to your army, These figures will work well with other figures. the only negative is there are only five different figures. Hopefully the company will do more. You can order these figure from Andrey. He sells on Ebay or order direct.
Under what eBay name does he sell these? How much per set are these? Thanks, Ed
Bearnson.
He sale under (plastic-soldiers )ebay ID.
He listed then in single lot set and save bulk set w large amount
Along all other set from same maker
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We also have a direct line in the comments from Andrey.
They work great x me in all those plus many more.
As the one before those are next x me.
The figures once again are in the more common produced resentlty 1:30 scale range.They will work too with LOD and TSSD plus all SUNJADE chinese set Greek s set done too .
And any ancient vintages reissues from Marx 60 mm, Reamsa, jecsan,Cherliea, Charben plus old vintages too mainly from Europe that run in the 60 to 70 mm scale in general. So there is plenty to choose from and match .
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Here are direct links to eBay :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152354712148
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152354713508
Very tempting, nice photo of the group together.
I just noticed that one guy while in what I would consider a fighting pose has his helmet balanced on the back of his head. Seems rather odd doesn’t it? You would think he’d wear it correctly or not at all, at least I would think so.
Ed, You are correct in your observation.
Even though it was light and not heavy helmet the portray of it using tip over upwards is not appropriated x combat.
The helmet in picture is Corinthian style model and indeed was used in that pose during not action moment only. Not in action.
A simple explanation of such is giving very simple in this Wikipedia link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian_helmet
However not used in combat in that way of course as you noticed first .
Yet the figure made by this company are extracted from metal cast figures model made from 2011 till now ./The pose choose and made in plastic in fact is depicted as Achilles by the metal tin figures maker .So I assume is depicting the exact moment when he rise his helmet up to be show his face so Hector could recon him base in film and one Iliad extract version !?
That would be only logic moment during combat the figure would show as that.
My thoughts.
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Conte plastic Spartans also has a pose with the Corinthian helmet up. The figure with his hands up in the air. I suppose the chin strap would keep (if their was one?) in place. Could also have that position if helmet was damaged and blocked the Warriors vision.
The Conte guy though looks like he has just scored a victory over an opponent and he’s celebrating, or perhaps taunting some guy he’s about to fight. This guy appears ready to rumble, maybe already engaged in mano on mano combat.
Ed.yes.
I reviewed both brand and show different action poses as you say.
So base in metal pose name I will imagine is representing Achilles moment reveling to Hector.
It is a very a like vase image that shows him doing same.
So is only I could think off.
No way that helmet would stay as that x long.So either he lowered immediately after or remove .
The ornamentation of Greek pottery from the period show various warriors in action with their helmets back like that – perhaps to improve peripheral vision? It always seemed strange to me, but would have to have had some basis in historical fact for there to be so many examples available today – particularly in pictures of the Trojan War.
Yes I did mentioned before showed in ancient era vases ;could be see all over but as you observe very well as to be portraying the Trojan war -Iliad and other works related about heroes.
There coins stamped with kings and other historical figures heads with helmets as that from Grece,Rome and even Cartage and late Egyptian . But definitely may show just a glance in action or moment to show face, see better because other reason but not quite the regular way use definitely.
Yet not inaccurate as well the rare two crest helmet are as were used too. So the figures made capture rare part of Greece helmets and else not depicted much before.
In fact the face cover variation of Corinthian helmet was left off use for long and open face helmets were used more ,probably because in loose not tide formation the helmet reduce visibility a lot.
Also there was a classic art era revival during XV century late period and renaissance to represent figures using the same helmet as that too.
Italian artist such Migalengelo and Da-Vinci depicted some heroes barely naked wearing helmet in same way.
Several kings and emperor from late XV to early XVII century stamped coins using a helmet head in that pose too.
Regarding personal opinion about specific pose, I think would be better if lower the helmet as more typical and better common than rare pose not much practical.
My thoughts
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These No Name Greeks are nice looking poses and go well with the various name brand Greeks. I especially like the Conte Greek in comparison to the helmet up No Name. It looks like someone good at conversions could move the helmet downward to have a similar look to the Conte helmet down figure. The feathers/fur has a short tail for the Conte, which could be done to the No Name helmet. The main problem would then be cleaning up the shoulder and back area. I don’t know the price of these figures, but it looks like converting them to helmet down would increase their value as action fighting figures.
Just a thought!
I’m trying to stick to Ancients of the Romans/Gladiators type figures to match the Marx Ben Hur for myself. I really like the Trojan Wars, though! These are so nicely done, and 60mm so maybe they could be added to my gladiators?
Well, I guess unless someone comes up with that ultra rare action photo of the Greeks in battle in the 4th century we’re going to be stuck just guessing. I would think if you are going into battle you’d want the ultimate amount of protection available. Wearing the protection on the back of your head just seems odd to me. Either wear it right or don’t wear it at all.
I’ve added 6 different items to my cart on Andrey’s website, using the link above, totaling more than $200. Each time I try to complete the purchase, I get the message, “Something went wrong. Please try again.”
I’ve now tried about 10 times over the course of the past 2 hours, always getting the same message.
Andrey, could something at your end be going wrong?
Hi Don,
I don’t know exactly. Some time peoples have errors. I contacted eBay support and they gave me just one advise – login through eBay.ca and all should be OK.
Also some time shipping not combined properly. In this case I always refund extra money back to buyer.
Or you can buy from me directly. Around 10% cheaper than eBay prices.
Ask Erwin or Paul for contact.
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Beutiful figures, as Erwin pointed out, they might be copies of metal figures. As for the helmet being on the back part of the head, I could imagine him trying to get some cooler air on his head or as Tom Black and Wayne W. mentioned maybe something to do with vision, or got knocked backwards in the heat of Battle ? I’m sure we all have seen soldiers wearing the WW2 onward American steel helmet chinstrap undone, tilted on the back of the head, heck I remember video of a WW2 marine in the middle of a battle with his steel helmet on backwards . photo Link https://www.pinterest.com/pin/364721269804226767/
WOW.
See I often the image in TV.
I think from TARAWA and never realize the marine had helmet as that.
In the haste of action many thing vould happen.
I bet could be an issues if done w german helmet or modern
post 80 s US model.
Thank x posting it Mark.
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Nice photo, warn backwards to “improve vision” according to the caption. It does get the small bit of visor out of the way. Thanks for sharing the photo, Mark.
I always wore my M1942 “steel pot” backwards during weapons (M16a1) qualification for the very same reason – the visor interfered with my vision on aiming. When we switched to the original Kevlars (greatly resembling the WW2 German helmet) in the summer of 1982 there wasn’t much point.
Chinstraps were largely optional when I first went in, too. If you look at most photos from the Vietnam era up through the Eighties we USUALLY fastened them around the back of the helmets. My NCOs, who were Vietnam vets explained to me that if you had your chinstrap on and a mortar round (or arty round) landed close it could blow your helmet off and the chinstrap might take your head with it. That was what I was told.
About midway in my first hitch a couple guys got killed in Germany when their vehicles tipped, their helmets came off, and their skulls were crushed. We were told to wear chinstraps in the vehicles – vehicle crashes were considered a greater hazard than mortar rounds after Nam, I guess.
In the 82nd, chinstraps were a vital part of our gear for jumping; by then the SOP was to keep your helmet strapped on. Even then, when my outfit got deployed to Grenada a bunch of the younger kids, responding to the heat wanted to ditch their Kevlars; some of the guys got on the cover of Time and Newsweek wearing their “Drive on rags” as bandanas, and there were even a couple of boonie hats. My concern was for my guys’ safety – it was devastatingly hot in the tropics after coming from Bragg, where the temp was around 45 degrees F; so my instructions (based on wisdom gained from my Vietnam vet NCOs when I was a pup) were for the guys to keep their Kevlars and flak vests on and their weapons no more than arms reach from them at any time. A couple days into the op someone brought the “magic” helmet, the Kevlar that stopped an AK bullet around to the unit – the 7.62 round had melted the Kevlar and was firmly lodged in the helmet; but the wearer was alive. He got knocked on his can and got up with a headache but he got up.
After the guys saw that I, personally, never had to repeat my order to keep their pots on. Heat or no.
I am assuming IED dangers notwithstanding, the strapped helmet is still SOP – but I would imagine downrange there are times when it is impractical – just being realistic.
My final opinion is helmet back might not have been common or even popular, but not unheard of from the archeological record. As a collector I guess it’s up to the individual to decide whether or not we want a guy like that in my collection. Personally, I might not want an entire phalanx of them but a couple in the army wouldn’t be out of place or incorrect and would add some life and variety to my formation.
Should have read I guess it’s up to the individual to decide whether or not he wants a guy like that in his collection
*worn instead of warn. Very informative, Wayne. Thank you for your service, and for the personal insight. I like the bullet stopper Kevlar story. A first hand example, which beat all the instructions and orders you could ever have given. Your NCOs in Viet Nam taught you well and you passed it on. Keep ’em alive so they can go home!
Wayne I always like u expertise and tales about army.
I had never though the M42 visors were an issue till you mention.
Always great to learn new stuff.
And I agree to all points regarding not bother having one or two figures w helmet as that as could had well happen. I heard before of accident in Germany .
I like to heard more as long ago I red that post WW2 Germany GIs accident were one of highs and wonder why?.If because road condition, speed or else.
I also heard of civilian been hurt or kill in accident by trucks or tank often that brough a lot of issues between civilian and military authority.
If is ok with admin to post it of course.
I have to think, post WW2 Germany occupation, jeeps aren’t the safest vehicles (easy to overturn) and there were likely a bunch of bored drunk GIs that had access to jeeps and other vehicles. Also probably a lot of rough, destroyed or unpaved roads, if the were even staying on roads. Lots of guys in their 20s doing crazy things like 20-year-olds do. Another thought is whether the vehicles had headlights or were using them. This is just an assumption, since in wartime, they would have been blacked-out, or broken out and likely not replaced. (Too dangerous to have lights seen during the war.) I’m sure the GIs didn’t worry too much about safety equipment when they had motorized transportation. Other thing after dark is trying to sneak past MPs.
I’m sure Wayne has some stories about such things
Most of the vehicular accidents I saw among American GIs happened out in the field – not to say there weren’t some in civilian vehicles; but when I was over there, owning a privately owned vehicle (POV) was so expensive most GIs couldn’t afford it. I had one for about six months before it finally broke down. It was actually a financial relief; after all, public transportation is so great over there a single guy really didn’t need a car.
We only used “blackout drive” in tactical climates such as the major training areas such as Graf, Hohenfels, and Wildflecken. We used headlights when driving in the countryside and did what we could to avoid maneuver damage (it could get real expensive even running over a chicken – forget knocking over a tree).
We did have a guy get drunk one night and grab one of our howitzers and drive it off post, breaking through the main gate and down Lamboystrasse in Hanau. I would imagine he’s still enjoying the amenities of Mannheim correctional facility – that is, if he hasn’t transferred to Leavenworth.
But in the field, life is inherently dangerous anyway, as has already been said. Blackout drive can be dangerous. I’ve almost had my head run over more than once by tracked vehicles passing through our position. I had an M551 Sheridan track come right past my head one night in the Fulda Gap during a “Five Day War.” I talk about that in my book.
One of the worst accidents I saw was on a really muddy day when one of our M548 (tracked ammo carrier) drivers tried to squeeze past another M548 on a narrow muddy tank trail and the shoulder gave way tipping his vehicle over. A buddy of mine was in the back (another safety no-no) with about fifty rounds of 8-inch HE ammo (each weighing around 200 lbs apiece). At least one of the rounds fell over on his leg literally snapping it in two in a compound fracture.
Guys started hollering and our medic came running. The guy was a combat medic and Vietnam veteran but he was a basket case from his experiences. I’ll never forget he came running up – took one look at the injury, inhaled deeply; then he turned to a guy standing next him, “Get me a cup of coffee…” he said.
He eventually took good care of the injured guy, but I don’t remember if it was before or after he got his cup of coffee.
I led a blessed life. I got stuck on a last thirty day trip to Graf when I was “short” (getting close to come home) – it was an “extra” trip they had snuck in. I got snagged as my battery commander’s driver because his previous commander couldn’t read a map and I, as a member of the Survey/Recon section… well, you can guess the rest. The last thing I wanted to be doing on my last trip to Graf (which was one more than I was “supposed” to go on) was drive the CO around. So I tried to get fired. I had a blast terrifying that poor captain – one night I claimed night-blindness and drove the commander and First Sergeant through a huge hole in the middle of the trash dump. Never did get fired – there really was no one else to do the job.
I loved our M151A1 Jeeps we used back then. I was part of a group of Field Artillery NCOs from the 82nd the gurus had to take a look at the HMMV. I wasn’t impressed. My opinion was the danged thing was really too big to be a decent jeep and not big enough to replace the M561 Gamma Goat (and other vehicles) they were supposed to replace. Most of us agreed. But they didn’t listen. I think the fix was already in – so why did they ask.
The thing about the Jeep was its four-wheeled independent suspension – which made it great for off-road and cross country (which WAS its bread and butter) but risky on hard top roads travelling too fast. You didn’t want to do a sharp turn over 30 mph and forget doing a U-turn. When I was at Ft Bragg we saw an MP turn his jeep over doing a U-turn on Gruber Road when he tried to whip around too fast to go after a car speeding the other way. The guy was fortunate he didn’t have a canvas top on the thing that day as he was able to actually leap out of the way of his jeep as it turned and stand there helplessly in the middle of the road with his vehicle capsized.
We opened our barracks windows and cheered – we were waiting for PT (Physical Training) – what a great way to start our day.
The Army put governors on our jeeps to keep us at safe speeds. Funny thing, in field units – conditions being what they are – those things were always getting knocked off. Go figure. I outran more than one MP on the tank trails of Grafenwohr. One of my favorite photographs (of those that survived my divorce) is of an MP Jeep right before he turned his blue light on me on the main tank trail at Graf as I was passing a convoy of M109 SP howitzers heading to the field. When the guy turned on his light, I goosed it into the dust and whipped in between two of the guns and watched him pass with blue light flashing. Then I pulled back out of the convoy and safely turned around the other way making sure I drove the speed limit.
At least for awhile.
I thought I had a pic of the blue light in my rearview, too – but it might have gotten lost in the divorce – along with some other stuff – like my 105 howitzer canister from Grenada among other things.
Sometimes we did have problems when we took our beasts into the countryside. One time we had to do a vehicular road march from our home base in Hanau along the autobahn to the Rhein River, where our engineers had set up pontoon bridges. My battery was to conduct a bridge crossing. Imagine our battery, with four M110 8-inch howitizers, each weighing close to 30 tons our M548 ammo carriers, each weighing about 13 tons along with other vehicles travelling convoy speed between 30 – 35 mph along the autobahn. Gee, we had some PO’ed German drivers and near misses (or hits, if you prefer).
To make matters worse, our heavy tracks kept breaking the plastic reflector markers on the side of the road. I guess we were fifty miles down the road when the Polizei pulled us over – we thought sure we were going to get hit for a boocoo bill for maneuver damage over the reflectors. It turned out they wanted us to send a detail back the entire fifty miles to police up the track pads our vehicles were “throwing” all over the road. Face it, tracked vehicles and asphalt don’t exactly miss. I wonder if we had any pads left after we got back.
We finally made it to the Rhine did the crossing – which to me with the weight of our guns was hairier than jumping because those pontoons sank really low in the Rhine, which was kind of turbulent that day.
As to the attitude of the Germans. I did run into some occasional resentment. I could kind of understand it after seeing the way some of our guys behaved. Some of it was just a clash of cultures. I remember even as an Army brat US kids were always a bit more rambunctious than the European kids – I saw this particularly when we were stationed at SHAPE and had an international school with kids from all the Allied nations.
But I learned if I behaved politely I usually received the same in kind.
Now the closer the border one got (remember, this was the Cold War) the friendlier the Germans became. I have another treasured photo which is kind of blurred, but it is of two German schoolchildren waiting for their school bus as we passed on our way to Sector (our frontline in case of war) to do recon in case the balloon went up. They are flashing us the “V for Victory “ sign as we pass. But then again, they were in the shadow of the Iron Curtain and knew better than most why we were there. I know on at least one occasion (maybe twice) we heard machine gun fire from the East when we were encamped close to the border. We knew someone had tried to escape to freedom. I may have talked about this before; if so, I apologize.
I know we sometimes would try to get a hot meal as a break from our C-rations we were supposed to live on for a week. Rarely would the gasthaus owners take our money for either our meals or our beer. So we left large tips.
I remember getting cheered by French schoolchildren in Normandy (Arromanches) in June 1974 when a little girl spotted the “US Armed Forces” license plate on our Chevy station wagon.
Not to say there wasn’t some bitterness. My girlfriend’s dad was a WW2 vet who wasn’t too happy about his daughter dating one of the “enemy.” We had an old broad, I called her “Iron Gerta” – who used to haunt the strasse (street) in front of my kaserne. She’d been a guard at a concentration camp and had served ten years after the war for crimes against humanity. She used to get drunk and prowl around our base so she could corner some poor GI and cuss him out for “ruining her life.” But she was batcrap crazy and guys who’d been there awhile knew it. Well, I’m rambling again so I’ll sign off for now.
if *they were even saying on the roads
*staying
John thank you. I think you right in there.
Yet I miss explain myself best before again-LOL. AS usual me …
Ok what I had red and heard are from former soldiers serviceman there from 60s to 70’s around.I know Germany had been rebuilding ,but by that time most ruble would had been removed I would guess. The jeep part is a plus and drunk, well I think it happen to every army.
There few odd incidents were trucks turning hitting building corners and bricks;( lets not forget most small town in Germany are stone-brick) had fall over and injury killing some soldiers/civilians.
In other I red a M1 tank smash a girl inside her house. I bet these monster tank were too big for medieval towns .
After that I heard tanks and most large armored were forbidden to enter small villages and town but not after many accident had happen already.
Now these are news stories from post base in direct local news paper from Germany.
Also I had consider that Germany had been since after 1945 the more militarized strong US presence force territory in Europe because of cold war and else. So with so much traffic of troopers ,daily training and else it may had add to all issues.
Again my thoughts only.
I will like to hear as well more from Wayne first hand if he has any to share of course.
Erwin, thought you were referring to just after WWII.
A CW reenactor friend of mine was a tanker in Germany in the ’80s. They made him drive across a narrow stone bridge and he knocked part of it down. They told him it was 500 years old and he had destroyed it. Later he found out that the bridge had been destroyed and rebuilt many times. That was something the tank unit NCOs apparently did to all the new guys was set them up on that narrow bridge! Just a funny story. I thought the GIs got along pretty well with the West Germans during the Viet Nam era and 70s. Apparently there were more problems than I ever heard about. The guys who have talked about being stationed in Germany have been very positive about their service and the people.
Beer, brauts and Frauleins equals Octoberfest all year!
Intersting John.
Not doubt about German s be very friendly.I do not think the accident affect any human relations but may had change some rules. Most I heard are positive fun tales during their tour as well too.
That bridge joke most be a keck if scarry x then.
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I noticed seveveral days ago that the Russian seller of these Greeks also had new Armies of the World sets, which feature different WW II armies that come in tubes. The ones I saw were British 8th Army with plenty of Thompson machine guns, WW II Anzacs that were similar to Airfix, and WW II Chinese wearing traditional Chinese hats. Most of the figures had some exaggeration on the weaponry. They are not on the site tonight as he may have sold out his quantities.
Anyway, if anyone knows more about these and other new sets I would be interested in hearing more.
Jack.
The toy soldiers modern and WW2 sets are small bags sets made by DGN distributed in Russian under RED- CAT I think .Are series continued of early DGN, call before (HING FAT) that were sold here in US in 2013-2014 first in tubes with assorted armies from Italian, French,Chinese-Russian(same just different color) ,Americans, British 8th ,German WW2 mix AFK and Europe and Japanese.
You can see three post of early set here.
http://www.stadsstuff.com/?p=2827
http://www.stadsstuff.com/?p=2753
http://www.stadsstuff.com/?p=2220
The new add on set carry by Andrey from Russia and others are Australian, Chinese southern nationalist army(army south ) or part of Burma Chinese army ,two modern NATO armies and one add one different pose Russia not included in sets we got here.
So far we had not got those here.I had contacted DGN distributor very recently and nothing.
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Here is the Russian red cat distributor link direct with sets they have as off now.
http://redcat-toys.ru/reflex_search/index/?q=%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8
Erwin,
Thanks for the update. I hope to add those new sets when they arrive here in the US.
Are these actually going to arrive here in the U.S.? Is Erwin going to carry them, or offer them?
I was referring to the No-Name Greeks, but I realize Jack may have been referencing the new WWII sets. But my question for Erwin would be the same in both cases.
Don. Regarding DGN-WW2-MODERN
As I did before carrying the DGN and sorting poses for you guys I will love too again…
But as off now the three DGN suppliers in US and even Hin Fat is not stocking then. As to why is unknown to me. Any how I keep trying still.
But neither HF or DGN suppliers distribute the last AWR sets here.
So I’m waiting or re-laid to bring from Russian only for me if I have too.
According to two Russian sources I know the sets are selling out fast there. One reason they come sealed pack and bad distributed poses.
other reason as cheap people buy many to get hand in as many poses.
Regarding the (no name Russian brand sets) I will not carry then x resale here.
Yet as Andrey says I can supply direct Andrey info x you guys deal on ordered from him. It will be best than deal from eBay and more cheap plus you got tracking shipping from him all time.
I also may supply others dealers(Alex) that post here some time and I had done very well orders with him too.
Email me if any you or another fellow collector wish and I’m more than happy to pass both.
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Very nicely done,,they should paint really well,,
Wayne, thanks for sharing the great stories. How do I get your book? The Blue light MP story is classic! Never thought about tracked vehicles in blackout as being that dangerous, but glad that was only a close call. But they can’t see you and all the worse you couldn’t see them but probably heard them long before they were on top of you. Or worse if you saw them coming but were in a fixed position. Interesting that military field experience is applicable to armies in plastic from 2 1/2 millenia before, but the human element is pretty much the same, so the vision problems, equipment weight, uncomfortableness, and heat-related problems all remain for the infantryman are all still there with all the evolution in arms and militaria.
My book’s name is “All the Way! … And Then Some, a Cold Warrior’s Journey. It’s available in paperback or Kindle on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/All-Way-Then-Some-Warriors/dp/0692803300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482440057&sr=8-1&keywords=All+the+Way%21+and+Then+Some
I hope I’m not violating the hospitality of our host here. If so, apologies.
Thanks, Wayne and thanks admin. for indulgence.
Wayne congratulations on your book. You have not violated any rule. I have epublished a sword and fantaszy book and short story myself. I have more in the line but I still working on corrections. I have to laugh my English teachers living and dead must be having a laugh that I wrote a book.
Thanks Paul, don’t worry about your English teachers; a creative writing teacher once told Robin Moore, author of “The Green Berets,” and several other books that were best sellers and became movies to get into something else as he had no chance to make it as a writer.
WOW Wayne!!!.That is great to read.
Will definitely get it.
thank you x sharing with us your first hand experiences and views.
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