Our very good friend Erwin Sell has done a comparison of the Cracker Barrel Pirates and the Dollar General pirates. In the picture above the Dollar General pirates were sold in six poses while in the lower row the Cracker Barrel pirates were sold in 5 poses.
This photo shows of the two Cracker Barrel Pirates versus two of the Dollar General Pirates
A close up of the pirates with axes. the Dollar General figure is on the left and the Cracker Barrel on the right.
This photo shows all the Cracker Barrel figures with accessories minus the flag we showed in our pose.
This photo shows one of the Cracker Barrel pirates in 52mm in measurement. The figures should be able to mix in with your 54mm figures.
The Dollar General pirates have only one pose that is 50mm. The rest are 42/46mm scale smaller than most of the new set poses that are being sold in stores.
The final photo shows how the figures compare against the Ideal figures
Thanks for Posting the comparison photos Erwin,nice job, it’s amazing the similiarities and differences, did someone get some ideas to sculpt from the other set ?
Mark. Sorry .No clue on who did first(the toy copies and redesigned poses/mold) is a puzzle always; every body had done that from early times. Chinese use limited mold system and then are gone, so student in arts usually take prototypes to play and learn creating new poses at tec/school arts. This is how they made most cheap figures. Manufactures use their work to do simple limited run production till mold is wasted.
But the fact that this last set is a bit larger in scale(50-52 mm) least give me better reception in my personal like, they definitely blend well with Hing Fat set done in 90’s and now recast in less poses and short size , the set from Toys r US- 6 poses sold with skeleton in bucket that was sold also painted before in bags , others I had found before from non know source plus new coming Blue box pirates sets. All in my opinion made excellent ship sailor on top of pirated addition.
Looks like Jamie still has Hing Fat if you ain’t hung up on fat prices … http://www.toysoldierco.com/Plastic-Toy-Soldiers/Plastic-Toy-Soldiers/Unpainted-Plastic/Pirates/Product.aspx?ProductID=9286&DeptID=6&AssocDeptID=8
Yes too bad missing the captain pose , the set has original 10 poses. The now undercsale cloned and sold by/under BMC,V Bill and others distributors are only 6/7 poses from original set.
I think china did a good sale when create these original poses sets.
Fortunately when they first come out I got few sets and kept two, rest resold after many years, now are hard get in all poses. They do blend well w Ideal and 54 mm.
Marx as well.
Erwin, if you remember you sold me a set of these figures about a year ago. I also bought some other Toysmith Pirates Dollar Store type from ebay still in the plastic bags about 6 months ago. I thought I was getting additional figures of the same approximate 52mm size. These figures are 64mm-70mm in height, and in the same red and black colors as the smaller figures. They were sold for $1 for 12 pieces. There are 9 figures, a barrel, a chest and a combined piece with two boxes together like stair steps.
I have not seen these before or since. The lady who offered them said they were bought at a thrift store. I don’t know if she meant a Goodwill type store or a $1 or 99c store. I haven’t seen these larger sized pieces pictured or mentioned elsewhere. Are they familiar to you? I haven’t taken them out of the header bags. They look like they would fit in with Marx, MPC and Ampex 60mm figures. There is a figure with a megaphone, a captain, one kneeling with musket, a figure with an oversized flint pistol, another with a boarding ax and one or two figures with no weapons with open hands. It looks like they were originally made to hold separate knives, cutlasses, or other weapons. There are no separate weapons included.
If you are familiar with these figures, can you offer any more information. Also 2015 copyright under Toysmith. If I asked you about these before, sorry I don’t remember.
The cpatain has a hook for a left hand and an over-sized pistol in the right hand. He is about 70mm tall to the top of his pirate hat.
The barrel and chest in your photos are different from the barrel and chest in these sets. The chest in this set opens but is a simpler design. The bael looks alittle more detailed and is open on one end.
The ebay seller only had the two sets; I would have liked to get more.
John I think you are reffering to later verssion pirates copied from Amscan set and sold at Target stores in bags on red and black colors. THOSE are 65 mm approx.
I made a small partial post here under “party city pirates” or as “pirates” I think if you type it in search window they may come out.
If not I will try do pics and send later this week.
Hope those are the one.
If are I had not seen then around x long. Typically cheap figures come and go fast.
If I got then in ebay Will send you link .
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Thanks, Erwin! You are up pretty late or pretty early! I’ll check under those post you mention. 65mm sounds like the avg size, so likely Amscan.
OK.
I forgot John were to post the links with Technolog pirates.
Rather look for my sets, take pictures and send to admin I think is easy post the links from ebay pirates set from Technolog or TEGNOLOG from eBay listing.
Scales are 50 mm to 56m approx..
There is and odd Spaniards sets that have some poses that look like pirates but I’m not including it here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152161496896?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112105120968?
_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pirates-54-mm-5-Figures-NEW-SOFT-SERIES-Tehnolog-Russian-Toy-Soldiers-1-32-/112033976064?hash=item1a15becf00:g:mG4AAOSwc1FXaNmg
Also here are others more figures sets and others that I had seen and bought some of then but still around. Most but one are scale 50 to 60/65 mm.
First lot-link has two sailors-not pirates that belong to set of 5 from AMSACN party supply figures loose sold too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pirates-Rubber-Plastic-Playset-Play-Set-Figures-Treasure-Chests-mixed-lot-/371739011707?hash=item568d5f2a7b:g:k1UAAOSw8gVX3Iey
This other lot-link has three more pirates from Amscan 90s loose figures.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-ARMY-MEN-PIRATES-GREEN-TOY-SET-PREMIUM-RUBBER-PVC-CEREAL-GUMBALL-/291967768645?hash=item43faa29845:g:kt8AAOSw44BYPNcX
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GiftCorp-Set-of-12-Pirate-Captains-Rackham-Bonnie-Captain-Kidd-Long-John-RARE-/122266971915?hash=item1c77adef0b:g:wy8AAOSw44BYNyhH
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-Figure-Interlocking-Puzzle-Cake-Topper-Lot-Sparrow-/332056374072?hash=item4d501a2b38:g:4xEAAOSw5cNYF1-q
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIRATES-OF-THE-CARIBBEAN-2006-ZIZZLE-2-PVC-FIGURE-CAKE-TOPPER-LOT-OF-3-/302144914123?hash=item46593d82cb:g:wlgAAOSwo4pYC8yw
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-new-accoutrements-action-figures-MINI-MARAUDING-PIRATES-2007-11751/332065229334?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D779de2f8bee7451c87a32c4ee8788df2%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D322336132133
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-pc-LOT-Safari-Ltd-Pirates-PVC-Figures-Ship-Canon-Skeleton-Cake-Topper-/141766790684?hash=item2101f58e1c:g:fScAAOSwgQ9VxVy6
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-Can-Do-1-24-4-Pirates-of-The-7-Seas-with-Black-Beard-and-Crew-Diorama-/152331807193?hash=item2377aee9d9:g:Fc0AAOSwFc5Xv3uQ
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Pirate-Figures-Kid-Party-Goody-Loot-Bag-Cake-Topper-Filler-Favor-Toy-Supply-/131746879617?hash=item1eacb9d881:g:gd8AAMXQxU5SArMO
http://www.ebay.com/itm/142173568010?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302163223161?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151313144122?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
If I see others I send here.
Best..
Wow, Erwin a treasure trove of pirates! Thank you! Tehnolog look like same links I had on ebay. Many others I have not seen before. The resin pirates are especially nice. There may be some buying later tomorrow.
Erwin, I did several purchases from the ebay items you listed. The soft Tehnolog pirates are ver good looking. I also got one of the hard plastic sets. These are the two Tehnolog pirate sets which look more realistic. I am guessing those were 2nd and 3rd realeases. The original Tehnolog pirate group of figures were the multi-colored set with most toy-like look. They appear to be hard plastic and not very realistic. I did not like their look. Nice searching; I got several other items you listed as well.
I had a question about The Pirates of the Caribbean chess set pieces. Can you tell me what scale those are? Some look like they could be used as toy soldiers type pieces if they are around 54mm size and I could watch for partial sets.
Thanks again.