Odds Ends HG Toys Cavemen Figure Comparison

Odds Ends HG Toys Cavemen, I have a few items to catch up on. First, my very good friend Detlef Heerbrand is looking for more information on the HG cavemen. Next, TJ does a size comparison between TSSD and Marx cavalry figures. Mike Schredl spotted powder blue long coat cavalry. Finally, I share a Werner cowboy pose for a German friend.

Odds Ends HG Toys Cavemen

Odds Ends HG Toys caveman
One of my great friends from Germany Detlef Heerbrand asked me if I knew anything about these HG Toys cavemen. Sadly, I do no. Checking the internet, I found that the set has four different figures. The fourth pose is a caveman with a spear. The figures were made in 1987 and sold with dinosaurs. If you know anymore let me know.

Odds Ends HG Toys Cavemen Figure Comparsion

Odds Ends HG Toys comparison
AJ sent me some photos to show the comparison of the TSSD and Marx cavalry figures.
Odds Ends HG Toys sideview
Here is a side view of the figures. Marx figure is 54mm and TSSD is at least 60mm.
Odds Ends HG Toys figures
Here you can see the difference with the figures. The thing is if you are going for all your figures to be about the same size. then you have to worry about the size of each figure. If not like me then it is something not to worry about.
Odds Ends HG Toys Werner
I recently sent some figures to Andreas Dittmann. In the group was a Werner Indian standing with his right hand up. Andreas did not have any Werner figures. Werner was a small company that copied Timmee western and Ideal and Timmee army. Werner did some original poses in the western figures Here is one of three cowboy poses kneeling with two pistols. The other poses are kneeling firing a Winchester and a mounted or sitting pose In a future post, I will show the Indians.

Marx Long Coated Cavalry

Mike Schredl made me aware of another color variation of the long-coated cavalry. This time the figures are in powder blue. The figures were in a group of other figures that looked the color matched it would be interesting to know what playset they were used in.

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9 Responses to Odds Ends HG Toys Cavemen Figure Comparison

  1. ERWIN SELL says:

    I have those cavemen, they are toys type cartoon figure but fall in my interesting figures collection.
    I think i though Werner some how was part of PP or factory used by them .
    I have the Gi’s by Werner and if not because have the logo in base i would think are PP TM figures as are identical.
    The problems with mounted figures always is in scale artist often made them smaller than their foot poses or bigger.

  2. AJ says:

    The Marx Powder Blue Long Coat Cavalry set of figures first came out in the 1964 Giant Fort Apache. The powder blue are hard to find and cost quite a bit for a complete, matched set in good condition. I have a set in teal (or aqua) that are less expensive to obtain. There is also a different set of 7th Cavalry that came mostly in teal. CTS did recasts of some of the Long Coats in gray and a couple of blue shades. They are really nice figures if you can find them. Scroll way down on this page from Kent’s site to see pics.
    https://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/Marxwestf.html
    Also, Marx Lane has an extensive write up if you go to his site and fish around. I’d cut and paste it, but not supposed to do so w/o permission. I think it’s OK to post at least this link.
    http://marxwildwest.com/appendix%20toc.html

  3. AJ says:

    Final note: the Long Coat with the bugle and the figure with arms at sides were not recast with the flag bearer, figure with sword, and figure with gun. My guess is damage to the original molds?

  4. Waynew says:

    I believe I read that somewhere.

  5. Jack Gibbons says:

    I picked up a complete set of 9 long coats in a Fort Apache Carry-All at a local garage sale. The metal was almost immaculate, and the set was complete. The owner said his son was never interested in it so it sat on a bedroom closet shelf for all those years. The new cavalry is on the photo of the carry-all box. They are a powder blue, stiffer plastic, and a different shade than the usual foot 7th cavalry figures.

  6. Wayne W says:

    My Carry-All Ft Apache (received Christmas 1970) had the long coat cavalry and Alamo style foot figures in light blue on the cover but the “7th Cavalry” figures in teal inside.

  7. Greg Liska says:

    I can’t remember the actual year, but the events that happened that year were phenomenal to me. I whined to everybody I wanted a FT Apache and got one from my parents, one from my aunt and uncle, and my brother pulled out his 60mm one and they all unknowingly gave me 3 FT Apaches that Christmas. The LC Cav was in the Carry-All version I received. It also had the frontiersmen as foot figures and the 2 additional mounted men that complete that mold shot. They were in a matching aqua. I loved ’em!
    I’ve seen powder blue originals in bits at shows, but when Lakewood Fairgrounds had a fleamarket, one woman brought in a whole set of LC Cav and sold it to a friend of mine who had a table there. At the time, I was not collecting anything other than WWII figures and to this day, I do not like that nasty powder blue.
    Bit of useless trivia: During the ACW, the US had an Invalid Corps. Soldiers too beat up for front line service or heavy work, but still wanted to serve. They took on light duties, mostly around Washington DC. They wore a uniform that was , yup, powder blue. It was essentially the tunic and trousers dyed the same color, as the Federal trousers were a sky blue (sometimes with a slight tint of green to it). So, my Yankees are not invalids.

  8. AJ says:

    There’s a complete set of powder blue long coats listed on eBay tonight (4/22/2021) for a decent price that are “in good shape with no breaks but a little minor brown staining.” I have to wonder if the “brown staining” is from the Marx landfill in WVA??
    Caveat Emptor……

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