This November Christopher will play Robert Bruce in Outlaw King. Here is the trailer to give an idea of what it will be.
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Looks good! Nothing interesting this Summer so this movie and the one with Steve Carrell I’ll have to see in November.
Sorry..
Another wrong representation in how scottish fought in battle at that time ,when they will do it a right way??
With braveheart they looks mix ancient british/celts with much later Scottish clans war warriors in skilts not used till least 200 years after Wallace/Bruce.In this they look viking/saxon mix to me with XVI century leather cotton shirts .
The schiltron pike formation with a lot shields was the main back bone of two main greatest victories of scottish over the english ,especially in rare offensive way used by Robert.It had not been represented in any movie ans try show as they fought as primitive with simple wilde courage to defeat the english cavalry and resist the english massive archer forcers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiltron
my thoughts.
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Linen goes way back. Sort of looks like cotton.
At least there’should no tartan plaid or bluemail woad facepaint like in the Melbourne Gibson abortion
Another movie I have not sit through. I am waiting to see trailer for the new Robin Hood movie and see how bad that is.
The trailer for Robin Hood is out and it looks very bad! The Sherriff’s Men look like something out of a bad SciFI Station production. Kind of English Knight of 1250 meets the Immortals of “300”. Almost everything looked Fantasy instead of Historical.
That is so true ,the MG trash was a waste of all a fake false ….This one is trying to get a bit better ,too sad the director even so Scottish can not manage to get more close to history in any …
In spite of the inaccuracies, it looks interesting. Sadly, accurate history does not sell movies but often provides stimulation for some research. I have a passing interest in this period of Scottish history as my paternal grandmother’s maiden name was Boyd. In the not-so-scholarly research I’ve done, I found that when William Wallace was a young man and the Brits were looking for him, Clan Boyd helped him hide from them. Also, the Boyds were said to have stood with Wallace at Falkirk and Sterling Bridge. Perhaps I’ll get some more clues about my Scottish ancestors from this movie.
To the non-Scots, “Tis a Scottish thing, ya would nae unnerstan.”
I worked on a film with one of the Scottish actors who appeared in Braveheart.
I mentioned to him that the film was a mess historically.
He smiled and said “Son I just took the f***ing money and said my lines”
Is sad what many actors do x darm $ …
No wonder the world is so full of ignorant watching these movies …
It looks like my kind of movie, although I always find it depressing to see horses run into sharpened stakes, even if, for the movie at least, it’s just simulation.
I hadn’t heard there was a new Robin Hood movie in the works, but I look forward to that, too. Every version they’ve made so far I’ve totally enjoyed.
But I just googled “Robin Hood movie 2018”, and was treated to three different trailers.
If Erwin didn’t like the new Robert the Bruce movie because of what he views as various historical inaccuracies, he’ll like the new Robin Hood movie even less.
It’s on par with “The 300” — full of wild fantasy shots, including Robin Hood twirling through the air as he manages to shoot one bad guy with his bow and arrow, and then, before he hits the ground, doing a mid-air sommersalt and managing to get off a second arrow shot into the head of the other bad guy coming at him from a different direction.
In addition, the men-at-arms serving the Sheriff of Nottingham all wear full-head helmets (sort of like a mounted jousting knight) where the helmet completely covers their faces. From the movie, they apparently walk around in this impossible headgear all day long. I think it’s meant to make them look more menacing.
In fact, the movie’s premise is that Robin Hood is actually the king or sheriff in disguise — king by day, Robin Hood by night — in an attempt to defeat the evil cable of court advisors — kind of like Don Diego in Zorro.
In other words, the whole new Robin Hood movie is a modern-day fantasy, far removed from the real legend of Robin Hood we’ve come to expect — a band of oppressed yeoman making their home in Sherwood Forest while trying to keep the evil Sheriff of Nottingham at bay until good King Richard can finally make it back to Merrie Olde England from the Crusades.
I think I’ll probably wait to watch this movie when it comes on TV, and I think Hollywood may finally have made a Robin Hood movie I don’t care for.
In contrast, “Outlaw King”, about the real-life Scottish hero Robert the Bruce, looks like a model of historical accuracy.
Erwin, at some point you’re going to have to accept this fact: plastic toy soldiers are not museum pieces, and movies are not college-level historical documentaries. By forgetting this, you’re making yourself a kill-joy, and creating for yourself unnecessary internal consternation.
Don.
I do agree in many aspects with you and enjoy most your interesting comments.
But with respect I need respond with your last directed to me that is very opinionated in my view.
First.
I do enjoy my collection w plenty fun otherwise would be so enthusiastic talking and buying since child as I do collect as a teen contrary to most in later years.
Same way you enjoy playing with your “toy soldiers” as a child.I do enjoy setting mine as historical battles in tables ,shelf and else.
As I mentioned many it before .I have two type collection.
Historical thematic and non historical
First is to represent as accurate possible the history period with right figures from any maker I get as close possible.
Second to do fantasy,SFC,prehistoric civilian ,animal else thematic with rare figures too included the nostalgic memories sets and figures from childhoods.
I do not collect heroes cartoon comic characters .
So I do enjoy all my figures in all the way.
Second .Same way you believe in Amazon warriors as being possible historical because Homer mentioned in Iliad. Even so not proof of such warrior ever exist so far and Homer did not write but sing poems at Greeks theaters supposedly and did so apparently 400 Years after the event plus his life is very obscure to the point that many historians are convinced he never exist at all .Yet he mentioned Gods, Cyclops and many creatures as well in the Odisey if ever was his too.So how historical all that could be is very questionable .
Conclusion ,I did not judge or say any about your opinion and actually was interested to see if any could do those warriors for my FANTASY collection. (By the way Amazon warriors were made by Chinese maker and Russia brand already but on foot.)but will be great seen more of course and if in horse better unless mounted in centauros.
Now I do enjoy SFC,Fantasy,romantic social life drama and comedies movies most .
But the so call self historical drama films most full of ballony,travesty history ,political one side influenced or director changed trash are not my like ,sorry to everyone his own and like. Freedom of choice and expression is a right still I guess.!!!not a unnecessary consternation but a reality and fact in movie makers .Sorry.
Yet I skip and keep going with out predujices or sadness.
So far there is plenty movies still to choose least x now until the controlled media get full controlled and used to change force u mind to watch what they want and not what you will like or choose.
So yes I enjoy a lot in my way and have plenty fun .I do not kill joy …
And I’m glad you do as well in your own way .
Honestly and friendly always w respect.
Best regards.
If you want to do Robin Hood youtube some of Richard Green’s Robin Hood episodes
Me, I watch movies to be entertained. Most movies while they may reference history loosely take a lot of liberties, but that’s okay if they entertain me. Now if I watch say a documentary and they try to force feed me a crock of spit and withhold what I consider pertinent information, I fume. So in a movie I don’t look for historical accuracy so I don’t get upset when they take their liberties, but I won’t stand for it in documentaries, I will go so far as to yell at the tv before I change the channel.
My thoughts are that I know it’s Hollywood and there are certain things they have to do for the audience and the story. They bring in the Romance for the Wives/Girlfriends. In Medieval movies the leads usually fight with no helmet but that is so the audience can ID them. What gets me pissed is when they have the budget and resources to get things right and they get things wrong probably from laziness.
I turned the History CH Vikings off because the Saxon Cavalry were wearing Lobsterback helmets of the 17th Century. In Gettysburg there were may too many overweight middle-age soldiers in the marching scenes. (Reanactors that the producers felt indebted to) a contemporary movie based in say 1965-68 and all the young men have long hair. In other words a laziness in researching History when it won’t break the budget or change the story to put it in there.
Yeah, but at least Ted Turner got killed at the fence in Gettysburg.
Yes, I always found it slightly irritating to see an overweight Confederate infantryman with a paunch in Civil War movies.
I’m not sure there ever could have been such a thing.
I may have spotted one or two in “Gettysburg”, “Gods & Generals”, and “Glory”. I also spotted one in John Wayne’s “The Horse Soldiers”, as he charged down the town street waving the Confederate flag. For some reason the camera seemed to keep lingering on him, and he was obviously a little too heavy for a Confederate soldier halfway through the war.
Basically, however, I thought “Gettysburg” and “Gods and Generals” were so well done, and so visually spectacular, with the Director trying so hard to capture the true spirit of that era, that I hate to engage in carping criticism of piddling little details within either movie. I actually never expected to see such movies so well produced.
Incidently, Playset Magazine is now taking orders for it’s new volume “The Alamo Playsets”, available in either hardcover or softcover. Rusty’s wife, Kathy, promises to ship on Monday. For those going to the Chicago Toy Soldier Show next month, Rusty and Kathy Kern will both be in attendance with plenty of copies.
Wish someone would make medieval Scottish peasants to go against the excellent x force British.
I think there plenty generic from Reamsa and RH thematic makers to use as peasant ,but EXF will do peasant wars sets soon.
If looking x late XV and early XVI centuries peasant of Scotland like clans wars then that will be more complicated as only Johilco,cherilea and few others made few of then.
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