Chintoys Conquistadors Important Update
Igor posted this on Facebook. It may help you in deciding whether to buy these figures or not.
Important information !!!!!
The first set of Conquistadors CHINTOYS’s in size is oriented to the soldiers of Barzso on a similar theme “Aztecs” and “Conquistadors”, on a scale closer to 1/35. ( that is, less than the usual 
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That is, indeed, important information. I’m assuming the Aztecs/Mayans are in the same scale.
Although I personally would have preferred the same larger 1/32 scale of all the previous Chintoy sets, this will be joyous news to Darren Hatley and our other cousins in Merry Olde England! Ha Ha Ha!
Since the rumored “true power” behind Chintoys is from England himself, perhaps he has been listening to collector comments. Perhaps he himself had the Barzso Conquistator/Aztec Playset, and wanted to supplement his own Conquest of Mexico figures with compatibles.
As for me, I plan on ordering them anyway, because I like Chintoys so much. Every set it has released has been outstanding. And so completely affordable compared to so much else which comes out these days.
At this point, I’m sorry I ever sold my Barzso Conquest of Mexico set, in a vain attempt a few years back to downsize my collection at the time of my retirement.
if he was smart to act on his impulses he made a great decision imo the best idea is interchangeability between sets i think makers should strive for compatibility i wish someone was still giving us our classic tim mee and marx bags for a buck a pop and still have our 60mm tssd’s for 30 a pop im a fan of great figures overall sometimes i even have a guilty pleasure of buying 70mm figures and collecting M.U.S.C.L.E men from time to time i in general love plastic figures of all varieties if i was ever going to set out to do figures i would expand the lines that already exist because 12 poses isn’t enough i personally have a wish someone would make tim mee/marx compatible commies we need more 1/32 scale figures for cheap its quite a shame this hobby is loosing traction so fast i wish Mattel or Hasbro would take up more offers for green army men
Since late 80s toy soldiers are not longer of any interest in any major toy maker company ,
They re third rate toys for minor Producers and retailers ,it has been proved the few times few try push one set in to market and goes down fast .The license action figures ,heroes,comics along with super massive TV/Media advertise are their top sales/production interest .Nothing will bring then back to old time toy soldiers army unpainted production .
That is for small makers and our small group of toy soldiers maker around to provide it .
Cheap production among hobby makers are every time less as proof not long profitable because amount buyers is way too low to sustain massive long run production with high cost investment …
my thoughts…
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So are Barzso and or “older” now 1/35 or closer to ? Not 1/32 according to Igor?
So wherever he does before are the true 1/32.!?
Barzso (specifically their conquistadors Aztecs resin sets)as far I know are true 54mm standard typical 1/32 , not 1/35.
Ok .I think someone need to put an order scale x these maker so they explain /learn better.
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Erwin, the Barzso RESIN figures (Aztecs, French & Indian War, Daniel Boone, Mexican War, Tripoli, etc.) were always 54mm or nearly 1/35. They matched the Marx 54mm very well. The Barzso INJECTION MOLDED figures (Battle of Lexington Robin Hood playsets) were larger, either 60mm or nearly 60mm. They matched the Marx 60mm.
The upcoming LOD/Barzso Battle of Yorktown playset will be injection molded, and therefore will be the 60mm size.
My Chintoy Generals/Leaders/Character sets were always 5 to 6 mm taller than the Marx “true 54mm”. If the new Chintoy Conquistator/Aztec figures are smaller, I’m betting they are the now the Marx “true 54mm”, which would match perfectly with the Chintoy Conquistadors.
I’d be happy to measure them exactly, but our source for all things Chintoy (Scott’s Model Shop) doesn’t list them yet.
Essentially, however, I’m not all that interested in this “puzzeling question”, since I’m getting them regardless, and have long found that my set-ups all look OK with both 54mm & 60mm intermixed, especially when I keep them in separate formations.
Don.Thank you but may be we have a different perception here with all respect plase.
As far i know 54mm=1/32 traditional figure is not 1/35 or close to 50/52 mm by scale range category and that is how is considered in hobby .
1/35 is another scale for smaller range figures and that is why the difference used as well in armor ,kits and kit model figures as Tamiya ESCI versus Airfix 1/32 .
They are different scale and not should be blend as one at all .
Yet i know is always a variation it should be pointed out same way you point out if described as 1/32 in card/pack or set should be that but in reality is not as proof of many makers list 1/32 and their figures are not that .
Scale should not varied when referring to number scale versus figures.
So by sample TSSD call their figures in beginning (Romans and others ) often 1/32 when if you measure from bottom feet ,(not elevate base) to top head the figure is 60 mm least and if add headgear else is taller so their figures should be 1/30 as LOD has done and described .
I have all Barzso main figures sets in resin minus last canadian militia set that i complete miss off may collection for not obvious reason ..I have the entire playset from Aztecs and conquistador and actually only playset from Barzso I have as i bought it direct from him at show in OTSN show in my first trip to that show and Barzso figures early indian mohicans and mohawks are between 50/53 m max from toe to bold head ,then the later indians tribes sets come taller and thicker with difference and disproportion as far you can see if you place one Huron next to a last tribe indian set loks like a boy next to dad as head and body are bigger versus other.So Barzso don’t follow consistently scale neither the mm measures in body figures either during years production .But least keep around their 52 /57 mm most .
Barzso .The conquistadors standing as i measure mine now from 53 /56 mm from bottom feet to top head ,not measuring helmet or base .In Barzso set the figure being torture has a 55 mm and has arms and legs spread ,meaning if standing will be taller .(The indian stabbing him with knife is erect standing and measure 55 mm!!) .The standing firing spaniards is 52 mm and another 55mm while a kneeling pose next to standing is 49mm high meaning that if stand will be very big and complete wrong made as disproportionately tall because is kneeling .(And this is unfortunately general rule mistake that happen to artist maker making kneeling poses to big next to standing human ) So what scale are they (could be round up as 1/32 or 1/35!? )
Again that is not 1/35 or 50/52 mm because most fall above 52 mm range in my opinion and measures .
So when Igor present the words (soldiers of Barzso on a similar theme “Aztecs” and “Conquistadors”, on a scale closer to 1/35.)is confusing measure in my opinion as not clear what they will be .
All do a person could be smaller you can not have entire army smaller and skinnier body ,small heads than others in overall shape ,special in scenes that require battles very close formation as those in this era.As you will have school boys soldiers warriors next to adults and will look funny in my view.
so that is why a separate scenes by scale in this type wars.
Best shot should be a compare photo next to Barzso conquistadors and indians if he has to see how close are in match .
The Barzso plastic medieval figures actually come is what we call by many 60 mm but are in fact 63/65 mm from bottom feet to top head again not counting base or headgear..So again off 1/32 and close or actually 1/30 scale .
I like measure figures off bases always and top head and is generally the way consider a true human scale size too.
Some say should be measure just above eyes line but i disagree as the head do not end there.
That is how i discover that the MPC cowboys wrongly label among collector as 45 mm are not but same exact 54 mm as marx cowboys ,miners ,trappers set figures and did photo compere post here to demonstrate it as surprise to me as well .
Unfortunately miss conception can be transfer for generation till show -found otherwise .
Yet i’m not discussing it at all just setting samples please and my point is Igor or who ever say those words need be more clear and use correct scale determination if want be be understood ;otherwise do a photo compere if has figures.With today technology you can do a photo anywhere and post in FB else in seconds .
In other hand if figures match Barzso and Cherilea 54 mm monarch figures i’m very happy as well as will match my sets ,if taller will be match my Reamsa,Amex and other in the 60/70 mm scale may be .
If smaller in 1/35 will match none neither and will be a problem i think as Darren point some figures described as 1/35 are small;er than 50 mm and then fall way bellow that scale and create a problem .That is all.
just my observation and clarification of my point .
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Very well said Erwin i couldn’t have put it better. Companys should tell you how tall there figures really are especially with blokes like me around Ha Ha. For me as long as a figure falls between 50mm and 60mm i will be very satisfied with that, The good thing about figures that go just below 50mm is that they are usually quite easy to convert to say 54mm, But if a figure goes above 60mm its much harder in my view to make them smaller. Anyway i suspect and hope that these Chintoy figures are about 54mm so that i dont have to do any converting?
Hi this is interesting news, It seems that at the moment no one knows what there true scale will be. Yes Don if the figures are around 54mm i will be very happy with that but remember i am a fussy bloke and i really dont want figures going over 60mm or under 50mm. Some 1/35 figures are under 50mm which i wont be to happy about either. Like i said before i wish at least most of these companys would all do the same scale to stop any arguments about it, 58mm as someone suggested would be fine with me, But we keep getting different scales. I will probably get these figures even if they are a bit below 50mm as i like them so much, But my guess is they will probably be about 54mm. Ive never seen the Barzso Aztecs up close so i dont know there scale although ive always wanted them, So i will have to wait and see, And dont shout at me Don?
Darren, my exclamation point was intend just to express happy enthusiasm for you and other 54mm collectors — not to “shout” at you. This is the problem with trying to communicate exclusively in writing — it doesn’t permit the advantage of voice inflection, and therefore can give rise to unintended meanings.
Don i know you were, When i mentioned dont shout it was just a bit of banter/humour. I dont mean to come across as miserable but maybe i do sometimes. Anyway i’m looking forward to these figures coming out and i’m sure i will be very Happy with them as i usually am.
Darren while googling i got look at link blog site of Brian .
https://warhorseminiatures.com/
If you scrolled down you will see close up comarsion photos of some poses of new Chintoys figures. While figures/poses looks nice I noticed in my appreciation in this great site that the figures are between Barzso(being slightly bigger-taller than Barzso) while smaller than Reamsa so well in your range ,yet you can see the body head mass volume are far different(bigger) than Barzso and close to Reamsa in my opinion while not at all tall as Reamsa-65 mm scale .In the other hand I notice that a close up photo show the figures finish of feet ,toes and hands in my opinion is crude in three indian poses .It did surprise me as not usually seen in Chintoy figures i had before .
I considered the Barzso and Reamsa finish better than these as far i see in these photos.
I will do my own compare with other brands as soon i got then ,but the quality i see in these photos disappointed me a bit ….
my thoughts
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