Another Look at the Warhansa 54mm Vikings Andrey has sent me more photos of Warhansa 54mm Vikings. Also he has done figure comparsions of Warhansa Vikings with other figures.
Another Look at the Warhansa 54mm Vikings Recap
Back in April of this year we did a short article on these figures. As in the previous article there are five different poses. They are as follows.
1.Viking standing with axe and round shield
2. Charging with two handed axe
3. Viking wearing animal skin withsword in right hand and axe in left hand
4. Blowing horn with sword back in the right hand
5. Advancing with sword overhead and round shield
Collectors will like that Warhansa did non- horn Vikings.
You can see the figures are nicely detailed.
Another Look at the Warhansa 54mm Vikings Comparsions
Andrey also did some figure comparsions for us to share.
Isn’t this a exiciting scene you could have on your battle scenes.
Here we have the Warhansa Viking with sword up while blowing the horn with a Reamsa or Jescan Viking. I realize in the previous article I said said 1/32 scale as the figures are more 56mm or higher. They are great addition to your scenes.
I ordered a set last week. I like the way they look. They should sell well. Let’s see if they do some Saxons next.
If is next to Jecsan they are not 54mm at all about 60/65mm least ,sorry but Jecsan vikink are not 54mm .The figures are in the new range 1/30 scale not 1/32 in my opinion .Yet much better in design that previous funny looking warhansa ,a good improvement .
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As add on …
I will prefer makers are honest listing their figures scale to avoid confusing others.As LOD, EXFand TSSD did setting their figures as 1/30 scale approx or 60 mm and not 1/32 .I got warhansa ninjas last and definitely are 60/63 mm least and very corpulent to be ninjas .So the maker should list update it better in my opinion.I don’t understand these maker still claiming these are 54 mm !!
Are they measuring from top feet to eyes!?
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I was NOT interested in the last set of Warhansa American Western figures with the too little hats and too big guns. I didn’t want to convert brand new, undamaged figures to make them look right unless they were VERY inexpensive. I did like the new bandit figures shown last month on this site http://www.stadsstuff.com/?p=11722 and have been watching the manufacturer’s site for news on their availability. If they are the “new” (58 to 62mm) “54mm”, I’m probably NOT interested. My opinion is that TSSD did NOT do the hobby any favors by introducing this larger quasi 54mm scale. I suspect other manufacturers also adapted the bigger “54mm” as well. I do NOT buy the TSSD figures because they are too “chunky” and cartoonish for me. If others like them, I have no problem with your preferences. I display my figures in cabinets with appropriate buildings, accessories and scenery in diorama fashion and the bigger figures do NOT fit well with old Marx 54mm figures. I do NOT want to spend money on figures to keep in boxes in closets. This actually works to my benefit because I can save money to buy quality old Marx figures rather than spend on these new, relatively expensive figures like these. I’ve said before, I would rather have fewer high quality figures than bags of stuff just to have new stuff. If the trend with Warhansa, LOD, Chintoys and others is toward this new larger scale, I won’t be buying them, but won’t crusade against them either. I do, however, wish whoever produces new figures would go back to the old Marx 54mm size.
In my opinion as stated many times before as well…
I think few will still remain go in to that scale as Replicant does ,or maybe AIP,HAT,ACTA(no making any now ) else.
Just because they had produce so much in old 1/32 that will be logic stay as that as will not harm then.
But rest included CTS are in to the newer (well not that new now) 57/58 + 1/30 scale approx for long and will continue,even Russian makers are in to that and will not go back.As will mean let rest of produced off balance versus newer reducing future sales x then.
LOD,TSSD,EXF,PUBLIUS,EB,CHINTOYS,WARHANSA,PLASTIC PLATOON,BARZSO(plastic)and most new chinese designed figures such Supreme,these knights and else .They had produced so much in larger scale that won’t make any scene go back off .
Me personally do not collect bags=(no taking Andy’s word comment in to contest please) or large amount usually when buy new sets split double poses with friend and or sold rest off quicky x according price .
Only in Napoleonic or massive line XVIII-XIX battles i repeat poses and not that much ,for instances for Civil war not that much as confederate army specially hardly had a same uniform soldier standing each other at field ,so i can do variation poses uniforms in my personal like .
Western in indians and soldiers do not require two same poses at all .
Medieval same unless you need a lot pikemen/halabard men and archers ,still you can use variation or mix on those too as today plenty brands to do as well.
Vintage are plenty out there,European most central are 60-70 mm with few exception brands .UK has the most 54mm old vintage but most have paint and many fragile plastic used in it.Reissues of some sets had been done but not much.
In US vintage with exception of MARX 54 mm many western nicer other brands figures sets were done actually huge 65/70 mm range approx or more IDEAL,AURBURN,ANDYGURAD and else.So not much there either .
In fact in Western vintage production where the most varied makers that did the more varied-plenty set ever ;were done in range from 60 -75 mm sets as well in most cases.
European countries such Germany and Spain did the largest production of western by amount sets,poses and else in the world as more than two third their production focused in that era of history in most makers /companies producing.
Jecsan,Comansi,Reamsa ,PH(no that much),Elastolin,DDR east germany,mamy western germany such Jean Hoefler,Manurba/dom plastik. Also PZN-Poland ,Italian and French brands are clear example of it .
The standard 54 mm-1/32 was more introduced from UK in to the world of plastic as far i had seen.Continued by Britain/Herald as tradition of its predecessor metal production .Even so many British firm jump to 60/70 mm -Charben ,Cherilea,Crescent and so on .
Swappet style figures same thing happen ,many start as 55/56 mm then others went as far to 75 mm-(Cherilea-Cofalu-Jecsan ,Nardi,ISAS, swappet)
Marx use it(54 mm) as way save material-space for its playsets in economical and profit way x most part .Lido and few others did same to use as playset feelers .
Yet they went all over place in scale as well too from early 45mm to later 60/70 mm …
Is always a dilemma to accommodate scales .
But i do not see those making so much in larger go anywhere back to 54 mm .
Yet they should definitely mark -label then as what they are to help collectors decide and or post photos next to other well known scales to compare visually .
My thoughts and personal view ….
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I agree with you Andy, for any kind of collecting hobby you have to accept some limits or parameters on what you will want to add to your collection and you are the only one who can set those limits. I don’t think you can go too wrong with the vintage Marx products.
TD, I used to collect ONLY old Marx, Auburn, etc.. My first new production figure was the Replicants CSA Horse Holder and then I started buying other Replicants and newer production 54mm figures. Now, I’ve just had a “moment of clarity” and won’t be buying the new “1/32” Chinese and Russian figures at all. Going back to old Marx and starting to like old 54mm Elastolin, Timpo and Plasty. I’m open to new production “real” 54mm like Austin Miniatures, but would rather save my pennies for a few old Marx 54mm character figures I don’t have. I think as we get older, demand will decrease and old figure prices will decrease as well. I know absolutely nothing about war gaming, but maybe that will continue the demand for larger quantities of lower quality pieces and help preserve the hobby. We’ll have to see, but as people have observed, fewer and older people are turning out for the shows.
This hobby is sort of split between collectors who look toward the past for their favorite childhood figures and those who want to keep adding the latest figures to their collection. Some can afford to collect both, but most not.
In the near future the size & scale of a figure will take a back seat to the quality of the sculpting. Why? Because you will be able to scan any figure and print it out to the size you desire. Well sculpted figures of all sorts and sizes will be the raw materials for e-converting figures in 3D.
i agree with you allot while at the same time liking tssd figures i miss the days of cheap army men bags i would sacrifice my right hand to bring back decent quality at a cheap price although tssd has great Calvary imo that’s why i like them although if you asked me back then if there should be a scale change i would of replied the same way you did but after seeing some of the offerings I’ve decided i’m partial to both i don’t find them to be that expensive i see marx stuff go for insane prices sometimes also the detail is debatable while the figures are quite old and i give them that saving grace sometimes their not completely accurate its like comparing rocks to rocks but im just pointing out although not perfect tssd has impressed me and is at least in business i accept the new scale im not happy about it ig i will always collect both i miss when things were cheaper in general when is the last tiem you could go to the store and buy mpc,tim mee, or marx army men
The problem with the cheap army bags is this. First you have the perception of stores that only a few categories will sell. Second action figures are more profitable and take over much of the limited space available in store. Final cost we remember $1.00 bags of figures we had as a child. Back then a dollar was worth more. Today that bag would cost $10.00. Looking at Liberty Imports medieval set you have a photo on side showing other figures and accesories not in the set. They had to cut back on contents due to their price point.
Paul, you must be younger than me! When I was in grade school buying bags of toy soldiers at Woolworth’s or the local drugstore, the bags were NOT $1.00. They were 39 cents!
I thought I paid a $1.00 for my Marx Alamo figure bag. You may be right on the price but it is so long ago.
I think I paid 1.00 for my bag of 100 Marx flat tan Japanese – at the local Ben Franklin 5 & 10. Timmee bags were much cheaper, of course.
In Britain during the 50’s/early 60’s, Marx figures in Woolworths, were 3d (old money before decimalisation), each. Using todays exchange rate that works out a bit less than 2 cents each. Those were the days my friend I thought they’d never end.
i am a american but i tend to like britians and swoppets, heralds,timpo aswell purely for aesthetics i cannot imagine figures being so cheap i just got a bunch of timpo knights and romans the other day for a insane price but well worth it imo i used to love the brtians knights as a kid always thought the bright colors were appealing i always happened to see them around but never owned any being quite young still in this hobby compared to others i had copies of the crusaders and turk figures while being copies i had allot of fun with them i eventually bought allot of the brtians figures by chance i find the UK interesting it has had a long standing tradition with toy soldiers I’ve always delighted in history i don’t understand how american boys never got so behind it although growing up post star wars i still always had a liking for knights, the wild west, and good ol green army guys i’m surprised it hasn’t sticked
When I was a kid collecting Toy Soldiers back in the 70s and 80s in England I didn’t remember seeing many cheap or expensive bags of figures, The only figures I used to see alot of was Airfix, Timpo and Britains Deetail/Herald figures, I dont remember seeing any foreign made figures at all and was always frustrated that there were no more figures to buy than the ones I mentioned to swell my armies. It wasn’t until I was much older and the internet came along that I realised there were all these Great figures from many countrys. Of course ive brought many of these figures now but I wish all these other figures were around in England when I was a kid as I would have been in dreamland. As far as the height of figures goes, As ive stated before, Almost all figures that came out in England were 54mm and so that is what i’m used to, I dont mind figures ranging from 50mm to 60mm but I dont like many of these new figures coming out that are nearer 65mm, So I decided a couple of years ago that I wont be buying aymore of these taller figures, But i’m not to bothered as ive got a brilliant collection of several thousand figures anyway, And it saves me money not buying these taller figures, Its a shame as far as i’m concerned that the scales cant be kept the same as years ago but there you go nevermind. If other collectors dont mind these taller and bigger figures then fair play to you and fill your boots lads.
I remember MPC soldiers, knights and cowboys and Indians at a dollar a bag for 100 figures in the mid 70s. I think my Marx Fort Apache tin carryall cost about $7.oo in 1971. Britains Deetail were kind of expensive. I remember paying 1 dollar for a foot figure and 3.50 for a rider last time I bought any new in about 1979 or 80. I think Airfix 1/32 went for 4 or 5 dollars per box of 30 when I was most actively buying them in 77-79. If only I had a time machine and a good supply of 70s vintage money.
i grew up in the early 2000’s and i recall going to walmart to buy a bucket or 2 of the green and tan tim mee army men bucket with the mountain and tank for under 5 dollars at least now a days you can’t get anything good for under 6 bucks honestly i miss getting quality plastic and smelling it in the bag if tim mee marx and mpc still existed i could at least go to the store and but a bag for the sake of nostalgia that’s why this is my cornerstone statement i make although you can buy cheap copies the quality is no longer there heck its a understatement not to mention the decline of toys in the west i’m surprised plastic army men are having it rough you would think some things are untouchable i wish all the jobs didn’t go over seas its partially i miss army men and i partially suffer from nostalgia overdose