Chintoys Next Offering American Civil War something that collectors had been wishing for will be happening. That is Chintoys doing American Civil War personality figures. Well it will happen as Rahway has been posting on the internet they are coming. Rahway got his information from Hannants a UK on-line hobby store. They are showing two sets of eight figures each.
Chintoys Next Offering American Civil War Union
The Union General Staff has 8 different figures. They are:
1. Abraham Lincoln President of the United States
2. John Fulton Reynolds commited the Union troops to Gettysburg. He died at the beginning of the battle.
3. Joshua Chamberlainknown for his defending at Little round Top at the Battle of Gettysburg.
4. Ulysses Simpson Grant eventual commander of the Union army
5. Oliver Otis Howard was wounded twice which caused him to lose his arm.
6. William Tecumseh Sherman famous or infamous depending on your view point on the March to Atlanta.
7. Winfield Scott Hancock
8. George Armstrong Custer
Chintoys Next Offering American Civil War Confederate General Staff
The eight figures in the Chintoys Confederate General Staff are as follows
1.Robert Edward Lee beter know as Robert E Lee Commander of the Confederate forces.
2. James Ewell Brown ‘J.E.B.’ Stuart the famous cavalry commander
3. Nathaniel Bedford Forrest
4. Richard Montgomery Gano
5. James Longstreet
6. Thomas Jonathan ‘Stonewall’ Jackson
7. John Bell Hood
8. George Edward Pickett known for the Pickett’s charge at Gettysburg
Chintoys Next Offering American Civil War My Thoughts
I find the figures very interesting , but I have questions. On the Union we are missing Thomas and Meade. Instead we get Otis Oliver Howard, who is a minor figure compared to them. Chamberlain is with a beard, when the picutre I have seen him is with sideburns and mustache. another complaint I am hearing is the union are not in blue and the confederates are not in gray. As I have said before Europeans paint their figures where most Americans do not. We ran into this problem before with Accurate.
I will be updating as I get more information.
I think they are fantastic figures although, used in a wargame setting generals are usually mounted.
If I was to add a wish list it would be for something a little more edgy such as personality figures for Quantrill’s Raiders – William Quantrill, Jesse and Frank James, Bloody Bill Anderson and so on. Also, how about a figure for Stan Watie, the last Confederate general to surrender. As a Native American it adds an extra layer of surprising complexity – the confederacy promised eventual statehood to the Indian Territory.
James, I agree those would be some great choices; however, I doubt there are many outside the US (and fewer and fewer within) who even know who Quantrill, Bloody Bill, or the James Brothers were, much less Stan Watie, whom I admire for his tenacity. Sad.
Paul, I kind of scratch my head at the absence of Meade, too – but considering after Gettysburg he was overshadowed by Grant it seems the set is following his career. He was much maligned and ignored in his life, too. I would think even Phil Sheridan would have been a good choice. But nonetheless I will buy these figures with glee when they come out.
Hi Wayne, You’d be surprised how much us Brits (indeed us Europeans) know of American history my friend. I agree there is plenty of scope for additional sets. Hopefully there will be more. I bought the “Sharpe” set & the sculpting is Fantastic.
I probably would, Brian; after all, I was pleasantly surprised to find groups of American Civil War re-enactors in Germany.
Even more odd than the selection of Oliver Howard on the Union side, is the selection of Richard Montgomery Gano on the Confederate side, a general so obscure I had to look him up on Wikipedia to even verify his existence. He apparently was selected in place of infinitely more noteworthy Confederate generals like A.P. Hill, Richard Ewell, Jubal Early, Joseph Johnston, Albert Sydney Johnston, Joe Shelby, Joe Wheeler, John Hunt Morgan, P.G.T. Beauregard, and a host of others. It would even have been more appropriate to select a non-general officer like Major John Mosby — the Gray Ghost.
So I can’t guess who’s making these selections — maybe an Englishman, maybe a Russian, maybe a Ukranian.
But in any event the figures are still very nice, with a few characters that were badly needed in plastic — like Nathan Bedford Forrest, Stonewall Jackson, and Longstreet.
And these Chintoy sculpts are always very well done, in a good quality soft plastic.
As soon as Scott’s Model Shop (ebay name RebelAlpha) out in California offers them, I’ll be acquiring a set of each.
Don, maybe your list of missing Confederates represents the NEXT group to be depicted by this interesting manufacturer?
You could be absolutely right, TD. Just like Chintoys did with the Napoleonic French, there could easily (and I bet probably) be a Set #2 for both North and South.
I am led to believe Igor Basevich (Engineer Basevich) is behind the sculpting or Manufacturing or indeed both. The money (I am also led to believe) comes from a wealthy collector. I’m sure someone will correct me. Igor is from ST Petersburg by the way.
I agree with James that these Generals should be mounted poses.
If I recall correctly I think general Reynolds was killed while he was on his horse. These guys would be much better if they were in action / battle poses on horseback.
Also if anyone wants some life-size bronze sculptures of these guys you can get them cheap right now in certain Southern states.:)
I’m not sure I need all those generals. I was never a fan of the Marx character figures for the Civil War, either.
It’s good to see new product being released even if it’s not my cup of tea.
Ok here i’m late with my bullets…Sorry.
I will repeat what i say last night when first posted ..
Custer !? .They could put anybody else but him ,he was not a main staff officer in Union army at all!
Where is George Gordon Meade??
Where is Sheridan ??
Who is making these set choosing a kid watching video games!!??
The colors are understanded to be because European maker .Yet the European maker need think he is doing it for the US collector buyers most and mainly right!?
So again what is it was thinking when using those colors.
(Is he going to do US pacific navy staff set next time in RED and Japanese IN in Purple??)
Neither the Green color choosed is an easy color to cover and paint as generally are the cream,tan,grey or white.So even to be painted is not quite correct choice of colors.
About horse poses .I will consider not much important otherwise most Napoleonic sets would/need to be made in horse too and were not done .
Because the sets again are call (General -Staff ) they should had been thinking in staff at quartered or not front line else and making them in foot poses ,or to save in cost producing horses that cost more per figure may be!?
Still is a good consideration to be taken .
Yet the fact they made Custer that was a simple cavalry general with very aggressive and not strategic fame versus others such Meade who give the Union army the turning point of the war in way much better that Grant and others regardless his decline under political pressure made this set odd .
Sheridan another very important general of Union army whose controversial and not controversial tactic definitely help to end the war in Union side is not represented at all!!
Others officer depicted in both sides are not that important either .
So in choices of officer -Set is bad
In choices of colors because are belong to exclusively war fought in US and mainly targeting US collectors that prefer not painted figures-Set is bad in colors done.
Because poses are all on foot -not quite good for battlefield scene but only for back-or quarters scenes -Set is regular
Yet I bet after all this most will buy them but not with the love they would like them to be coming out .
For me particular as previews sets are not important to me .Some are being represented by MARX twice in foot pose and repeated .Here i side with Bill
Many generic ACW officers from Marx and many brands are well suitable for most those represented.
Custer pose can not be used x indian wars either as is represented in this set .So not double purpose x me .
I will definitely let go x long or never buy it .
sorry .
my thoughts.
best.
P.S yes the ebay seller friend mine will carry then in week or so ,please guys ask him when you can ,he generally respond quick ..best
According to strict Marxists character figures are made in cream colored plastic.
Custer was never made in cream, neither was Richard Greene , Captain Gallant and Prince Valliant. Ben Hur and Rin Tin Tin were made in cream and other colors as was Wyatt Earp. Probably others too, that elude my addled brain at this time.
Plus many cream figures are available in custom shades of gray and even black from the dump in W. Virginia. No extra charge.
Does tssd Custer count?
I see lots of conversion potential with these sets, just a head change and they could be officers from almost any country during this period. Gano is a strange choice, my guess is he got on the list because of his tricorne hat!
Not a student of the Civil War, nor does it hold too much interest to me, but I had never heard of Gano until today. I have Googled him since, but prior to that, nothing.
I think on the Union side they should have had a figure of Hooker as he has given so much to the world.
Lol lol lol
Congratulations!
Not running these figures in blue and gray colors, is the dumbest idea I have witnessed in a bit.
Dumb!
Yes they could be/made into great pirates poses too as well i guess !!!
I don’t have much use for character figures at all. I can see use for these guys in other roles and for conversion.
There is a huge misunderstanding of just what a General Staff is. None of these guys are on a General Staff. They are mostly Corps Commanders. For anybody who’s been in, they know the huge difference between being in command or on staff. There are some notable personalities that were on the staff of Lee and Grant that are worth looking up, but they aren’t here.
Guys like Bloody Bill, Quantrill and Stand (not Stan) Waitie are raiders, or ‘Partisan Rangers’ in Confederate parlance. Some did some time in regular service, but they are known for their guerrilla warfare. I’ve done loads of conversions using cowboys and people in time period clothing. I doubt we’ll ever see any raiders done in this era of PC thought control. I see the Safari Confederate figures now have their color bearer carrying a US 50 star flag, because just showing it will somehow make you racist, I guess. This goes back to my point about not showing the WWII German battle flag. We sacrifice accuracy for some sort of ethereal ‘feel good’ that only the shallowest of minds can swallow. These same dim wits will also state they are against any type of censorship while championing some cause of very bad taste, because they were told to.
So, in summary: Not General Staff but Commander, We won’t see any raiders being done so make your own, PC IS censorship.
Well I say same about why if call “”general staff”””
They made a guerrila charater so obscure that neither had made any impact in Napoleonic wars not was part of any staff at all.
Some officers made in napoleionic are minor generals too.
So this maker use the name to were ever he pleases and does not give a dam about accuracy versus name. Neither do any research.
I was surprise not see Augustina de Aragon in the Spanish staff.
May be he don’t like woman’s and that what made him stop making her.
As horse poses .Most Napoleonic should be too but again is what he made .
Next set is in purple and orange problaby too.
Again I think this is a young game player enthusiastic wasting money for the sake of few.
My thoughts.
Best
Custer is a well known personaility, whether or not you agree with his importance it is an instantly recognizable name and peole are attracted to that. I’m sure there are a certain amount people that will buy that set purely because they have a figure depicting him.
Ed ,Yes i agree he is famous ,especially because after LBH death was made a a “BIG” ) projected legend .Yet pose is in ACW uniform and on foot (neither representing him as typical action he was involved in ACW or later ) and of course not a general staff at all,neither an importat non general staff during war leading any victory or main battle.
Regardless collectors will buy these set as I mentioned too before no matter what as nothing else around and hungry for it.But set is bad representation of what is label and colors bad too.
My thoughts.
Custer was a hero of the Civil War and was at a lot of important incidents that were newspaper sellers at the time. His dogged fight at Hanover helped slow down JEB Stuart being of any assistance to the Army of Northern Virginia at Gettysburg. He took part in fighting J.S. Mosby where he was (seemingly inaccurately) accused of hanging some captured Partisan Rangers. He played a pivotal role in Sailors Creek which eliminated an entire Corp of the Army of N. VA. making the stand at Appomattox hopeless. When you think of a Cavalry commander, you think of him. Sadly, we always go to LBH, but he was probably the one Cavalry commander for the Federal forces that was never made a complete fool of by the Confederate’s generally better (if under equipped) mounted forces.
He was a subordinate receiving positions orders .Not a commander.Often sharing commander orders w alike ranks in battles.His action cost many much lives in many occasion versus those of other same situation.
He was brave but very bully and risk taker .Not quite skillful officer ,neither care the life his man at all in many action.I have not admiration x him at all personally.
His exploit are equally to those of many like him in records.
Hi is been grandered after the LBH that create a legend of him.
Was not been kill there.he would be as many others.
Any way like or not the dismounted figure is useless as well x indian “so many futile action” he did
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Best.
You can send me your useless dismounted Custer figure to ride in the hot air surveillance balloon I will make.
I’m not buying any of them body…
not interested at all
I think Jeffrey Wert’s comment on Custer in his biography sums up Custer’s life best: Had Custer died the day before Appomattox he would probably gone down in history as one of our greatest – if not the greatest cavalry commander in US history. As it turned out, he is remembered for one June afternoon in 1876. Then, (this is my opinion) – he made all the wrong decisions for what appeared to him to be the right reasons and he and his command paid the price for the mistakes.
Custer rose from graduating last in his class in 1861 to being a brevet Major General by the war’s end. When many generals and field grade officers were sent home or reduced to the ranks of captain after the war’s end, Custer was retained as a Lt. Colonel – two grades above his actual permanent rank of captain. That speaks greatly of the opinion of his superiors.
When Lee surrendered, Sheridan purchased the table upon which the surrender documents had been signed from Wilmer McClean, whose home had been used for the occasion. He presented it to Custer telling him and his wife that he could think of no one else who had contributed as much to the victory.
The problem with Custer is that he was such a powerful personality he was polarizing – particularly in the 7th Cavalry – there was the “Custer Faction” consisting of Custer’s family and those officers who loved him, and there was the anti-Custer faction – lead by Benteen and Reno. Benteen hated Reno for what he considered the desertion and resultant death of his friend Major Elliot at the Washita in 1868; Reno was jealous of Custer. If “Custer’s Luck” had been nothing but good – Reno’s had been nothing but bad.
When Custer went into battle at the Little Big Horn he took those troops led by those officers he both liked and felt he could trust. They died with him.
I’m not really all that bothered that the set is of commanders rather than staff – perhaps it’s a translation thing. I am perplexed by the inclusion of some historic figures and exclusion of others – as some have said, perhaps there are more sets to come. I hope so. I agree they should be mounted, but have seen how difficult that seems to be this day and age so…
I will say, if Oliver Howard and Joshua Chamberlain are distinguished enough to be represented (and I respect both) – Custer definitely deserves to be included for his Civil War exploits, if not for his post-war actions.
Everybody is subordinate to somebody. Custer WAS a commander. He had divisional command before the war was over. That’s no small achievement.
Every one got a rise in position as well by end of war if made alive ,wounded of have great connection such Custer that indeed had “big “ connection to help him get what he want too .
He was exploited versus other that did same. He was given more advertise than others did same or more in many action.
A plus that contributed to his enlightenment versus others . Simple.
He never took or made any main along order that was very smart or skillful at general level. Most his action were typical cavalry well trained west point learning and basic .Very aggressive not doubt and encouraging at all time .
He was choose and ascended because very aggressive charter example that Union command was looking for by 1863.
At LBH he made several ,not only one mistake and bluff a lot before go to his doom.
He often ignore subordinated and superiors .
He was very brave and flamboyant ,but not any smart skillful officer at all in main large action tactic or strategy
His superiors always price and regard him x bravery ,that is all.
He was several time suspended and reprimanded yet thanks to his connection put back again.
He often got in trouble included after robing and hiding a horse that made him look ridiculous at a parade by the way.
At Gettysburg his action were brave yet not quite planned by him neither the main cause of Stuart retreat .Others officers such John Baillie McIntosh to whom poor credit is given versus Custer and also by end war promoted as well was more responsible for the outcome than him.
It was Mcinctosh right side flanks attack along with 3rd Pennsylvania and 1st New Jersey hitting Hampton left what prompted the confederate cavalrymen to retreat in disorder and confused and it was Stuart that see the two flank attack plus the sound of the cannon opening on Pickett men that he decide abandon the support as momentum had been lost .
Not quite Custer brave bully frontal attack that cost Custer 218-257APROX men-W,M and K was the main cause of it outcome as apparently looks .It is clear and obvious how poor detail is given of actual event to obscure some and light others.
I’m happy many can get his Custer figure ;yet no my personal hero-character at all x ACW .
I just saying he could be let as not Staff at all ,neither main commanding officer in any main battle at all during war
Least the “obscure Gano” commanded his own independent force and won two battle for him self along .
My thoughts ..
Best regards
Here’s an article on George A. Custer. Actually sounds like a pretty heroic soldier:
https://www.civilwar.org/learn/biographies/george-armstrong-custer
Honestly, I’ve never heard of a few of these other Union guys….
I personally would like a set of well done, accurate Confederate Raiders like Quantrill, Anderson, Stan Watie (means “stand firm” in Cherokee), the fictitious Josey Wales, etc. vs. any more standing shooting, kneeling shooting, prone shooting, standing loading, etc. ACWs. Since only (maybe) five of us would like these, they probably won’t get made except as conversions. Mounted officers in appropriate blue and gray would be good with some interesting horse poses such as rearing, grazing, etc. vs. the two standard running styles. I know these will never get made, but I will buy them if someone does. Now we need another 499,999 buyers at high prices to make it worth someone’s while to make. At this point, I will sacrifice two large take out pizzas and spend +/- $40 to buy a set each of green USA and CSA Chintoys “generals” from the eBay guy in CA. I guess, if I want accuracy down to shoe eyelets, I’ll have to look into metal figures at $50 – $150 each.
Sorry – STAND WATIE with a “D”. Stan Watie is his Polish cousin.
LoL! OK, that was a good one.
Polish general staff is next in the cooker.
i’ve been waiting for a bushwhacker set too replicants has a good 6 figure set that is pretty close called confederate raiders we need alot more confederate figures specifically Calvary the union to me are over represented
Do they even teach this stuff in school anymore? Why would kids be interested in obscure ACW generals? Electronic ACW games? Maybe?
I would bet that my two daughters both college graduates, one with a master degree would be hard pressed to name any Civil War generals outside of Grant and Lee. I would also imagine that neither would know jack cheese about the Alamo other than what I have told them. They may have heard about Davey Crockett, but I would guess Travis and Bwoie would escape them.
So, some of these generals might be as well known as The Minor Prophets from the Old Testament of The Hebrew Scriptures? Can I say “Bible” here?
By the by, Ed, congratulations on two successful daughters. Mine is finishing up a masters’ degree and just got recruited to be a (paid!!) graduate assistant!! Proud of the kid! PLUS, I actually love my son-in-law. Real good guy.
Thanks, she’s already getting paid well. So is her husband , they got their masters degree at the same time. They are probably millionaires already.
I would have been a millionaire now, but I spent my money on wild women, hard partying and toys; the rest, I just wasted……
I’m going to blame my poverty on two divorces, I lost half my stuff ……twice.
Did you see the new Barbie Divorcée Doll? It comes with half of Ken’s stuff!!! (LQTM)
Admin,
The Joshua Chamberlain pose has a moustache, the droopy type, but unusually with a slouch hat. Perhaps you have mistaken him for the figure above with kepi and beard. The pics I’ve seen of Chamberlain he has a kepi as he had in the Gettysburg movie.
I may be reading the posts wrongly, but it seems everyone is getting excited about something that isn’t known yet, that is the production colour of the sets. I have the SHARPES’ RIFLES set in front of me and the packaging shows them in RED but the production figures weren’t made in RED . Possibly these pictured figures are the original ‘Greens’.
The pose and named choices may simply be down to how the figure looks from a sculpting point of view, unusual headgear on one for example and a one armed figure another. If a second set of each is planned then it would make sense to have some well known named characters and some more not so well known to make up the 8 poses.
Making these as Mounted poses would not have been a problem but the cost of doing a horse would probably be too much and offering mounted figures without horses doesn’t work as HAT found out.
Just my two cents worth.
Best Regards,
Les
Italeri,HAT and Waterloo-1815 did mix mounted staff horse/foot poses and they continued after making other sets.
Italeri produced many mounted/horse and caisson,chariot sets as well.
It is not that what force then about stop production ,but the fact the staff sets along are one single purchase per collectors in most cases reduce the amount set sell per set .While generic troopers sets are sold in much larger amount per buyers in order to make numbers of forces.
You buy one general staff and 10 sets of soldiers for a nice collection least typical
The overall general cost production long run mold in 1.32 scale versus profit is what made then stopped producing that scale while continuing with HO in case of all three companies .
It has been saame issue affecting most models toy soldiers makers such Airfix,ESCI,Rebell,Matchbox,HAT,Italeri,emhar,Waterloo,Accurate among others.
Companies such BLACK HAT still make metal,after they venture with one single napoleonic russian infantry set in plastic they stop as they had invested over 20.000 in molds and first runs and after 7 years still not recovered from the investment in that single set.
The Hobby in toy soldiers collectors is simple not enough for such amount runs molds sets to be sold quick.
HAT over produced too quickly many sets and end in hard economic situation as not recovering at all and try ask x money from enthusiast that also end in failure.
The overproducing in short time was one of main causes of CONTE dismissed as well .
Others without mentioning name today face same odds in market even after they had slower down a lot .
Italeri same but not in same way as HAT
Waterloo1815 went much slower and stop before get in deep water.
Emhar same .
You can still produce and make much more with HO than with few sets of 1.32 and many gamers still uses the HO over any else.
my thoughts.
best
wahoo,good old chintoys.never even heard these guys were coming out and wham here they are.i am from the other side of the pond,uk and I am looking at these babies and imagining them painted up and how good they will look.have all the chintoys sets and engineer basavich sets as well and they are all amazing figures,will become miniature works of art when they are painted up.both companies are to be congratulated for adding to 54mm range,plus prices are not to steep.
I know are friends across the pond are not into painting so I can understand the displeasure in colours.
now if only airfix will release two sets that they made in late 70,s,modern Russians,ww2 Italians,i would be a happy camper,but alas I think these moulds are long gone to valhallah,shame.
anyway guys I love the site and cheak it every day,very invieous of you guys going to model shows and picking up some great finds and I love reading your words
ps anyone out their wants to chat models,figures give me a shout,i live in deepest cornwall and it is a figure collection desert no one into it here,billy no mates that’s me.,my
be safe everyone.
mikey
I did urge him to do Civil war General staff last year. I’m sure that had no bearing on this production lol
Hey Mikey, I too am in the UK & equally excited about painting these figures. I’ll leave my email add with Paul if you wanna keep in touch & talk painting etc?
Also on FB
Mikey
I have removedyour email from your post for safety reasons. I will send it to anyone who wants it. It is my policy to keep collector’s email out of comments due to spammers.
hi admin,many thanks for doing that.yep you are right.my mistake.brian McIver gave you his email for me to contact.would like to say hello to him.thanks again for been so tight on emails,kind regards mikey
There have been lots of comments on the colour of these figures (Green) This could of course be pictures of the Greens (1st sculpts) as the Sharpe set I have is Cream not red as indeed some of the other sets vary in colour from the pic on the bag.
i hope they don’t keep green as the color for both sets hopefully the union generals will be in blue and the Confederates in grey
I see they have not done Armistead maybe they will bring set 2 or 3 of each side as there was so many involved in the war it is a great idea to do other eras general staff. Look forward to seeing what else they will come up with.
I will buy the sets. New civil war figures are always good to see. As they are specific historical figures there is only need for one box. It will be more difficult for ChinToys to make money on the figures.
Now, how about a WW II commanders set? US, German, Russian, British, Japanese, and maybe even an Italian officer? Not static poses like Marx did, but actual action shot. Or how about a Rome and It’s Enemies leaders set?
I could always find a place in my battle set-ups for these type of figures.
Good idea. I’m seeing all kinds of possibilities for this new company. American Revolution would be welcome, too.
But first I want to see Set #2 for both the North and South. Set #1 leaves out too many famous, interesting personalities.
But so far, with Chintoys, I have yet to be disappointed with the quality and good sculpting of their figures, along with their eminently reasonable prices.
What is the actual size on these guys???? Are they true 54mm or closer to 60mm?
54mm.
Got my two sets today via eBay. Figures measure at 60mm tall – the “new” 1/32 size established by TSSD? Too big to go next to 54mm Marx. Same size as Conte. CSA are an aluminum sort of blue color and US are a medium tan. Would have been better to do opposite colors. Sculpting is very good. Nice details. Glad I only paid $18.99 x 2 + $4.95 combined shipping. Might not have bought them had I seen them in person. I think these will be my last Chintoys.
Andy x some the vission of 54mm had increase to new level.
54 mm shouls be 54 mm.
U can always use x trade w another collector if not u scae maybe.
I agree in colors.Still absurd choice if looking American way.
For European is great choice to be painted.
Best
Erwin, this just confirms my belief in saving money to invest in quality vintage toys rather than throw it away on new production items. There’s PLENTY of old Marx, Timpo, Plasty, and Britains that I could have put my $43 toward. Maybe I’ll learn. I’ve NEVER been sorry after buying a good vintage toy. Buying the new stuff is shooting dice.
You will need to stay on old vintage as most new or all will go to 1.30 scale which is the correct therm x most making figures .The idea started byCONTE actually went high after by most making new figures minus Barzso resin as even Barzso new knights,ARW sets are 1.30 .New production in CTS star with 1.32 and went height too in scale as years pass.AIP start w 1.32 and last set went height too.
The hobby as i repeat before is not longer making old 54 mm at Airfix style but even in vintage there was huge amount of disparity too,in fact most early plastic (BETON,AJAX,TM,MARX,AURBURN, IDEAL,ANDY G …) were 60-75 mm high.So we can not blame any and just choose what we know x sure or ask x correct measures.
The 1.32 =54mm scale thing terminology was introduced-spread more with the (“model”) lines by AIRFIX,MATCHBOX,ESCI .
Marx ,lido and others change to smaller range to accommodate amount figures per playset by late 50s and early 60s.European brands mix all type scale as well.UK brand such CHERLEA,CRESCENT ,CHARBEN made 45-70 mm scale sets.Timpo knights are 58 mm and call 54 mm .Airfix sets some are 52 ,others 54/55 mm .It is a huge hard mess to mix match out there still in vintage.The 54 mm standard range become more common from early 60s till late 70s production only .
In my case i collect any from 45 to 80 mm as I separate by ranges them.
Yet i understand those that not but i can not understand those that push numbers into wrong scales (Included some dealers)that even after you confront them cry loud .Not i only sale 54 mm figures!!!and mark all as that .That is complete wrong and mislead.
my thoughts.
best..
Good thing CLOTHING isn’t sold that way!! ;}
“What size shoe do you wear?” “Well. somewhere between 9 and 15.”
Lol …
Only x clowns I guess.
I posted some pics elsewhere of some Napoleonic staff alongside TSSD, Paragon, Conte and Accurate figures, to me they kind of bridge the gap between “New” 1/32 and “old” 1/32. As another said, kind of like CTS’ ACW figures.
Thanks Don & Wayne – two true modern Renaissance men!! Now, just have to hope for blue Union & gray CSA on actual releases. It would be funny in a painful sort of way if he did CSA in blue and Union in gray……. but, then again, old Marx reverse color ACW for Custer figures are big money.
It’s quite clear that in my 35 years of military and defense contracting service that I do not understand what a commander or a subordinate command is, or an independent command, either. It seems to me that Gano had commands clearly subordinate to the senior cavalry commanders in that theater, just like Custer did in the East, But somehow that’s different. Additionally, I always thought that the Cavalry Corps was subordinate to the Army level commander for purposes of recon collection and rear area guard (called battlefield circulation these days). I just don’t get it. Perhaps as I read, I will learn more.
Sorry Major Liska, but 35 years of military service does not compare to one day at Stad’s Stuff.
Gray CSA & brown (???) Union are now available on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chintoys-1-32-CONFEDERATE-GENERAL-STAFF-Ameican-Civil-War-Figure-Set-/382230514653?hash=item58feb6cbdd:g:FZ8AAOSwwf5ZwCzQ
Brown Union:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chintoys-1-32-UNION-GENERAL-STAFF-Ameican-Civil-War-Figure-Set-/132333562326?hash=item1ecfb1e9d6:g:kfsAAOSwLiJZwCzN
Got my two sets today via eBay. Figures measure at 60mm tall – the “new” 1/32 size established by TSSD? Too big to go next to 54mm Marx. Same size as Conte. CSA are an aluminum sort of blue color and US are a medium tan. Would have been better to do opposite colors. Sculpting is very good. Nice details. Glad I only paid $18.99 x 2 + $4.95 combined shipping. Might not have bought them had I seen them in person. I think these will be my last Chintoys.
Andy, I think you owe it to yourself to get the new Chintoy Mounted Civil War generals when they are released. The poses look great to me, and the horses also look very well sculpted. And who would ever have dreamed we would have in 2018 releases of a mounted Nathan Bedford Forrest, a mounted Jeb Stuart, and a mounted George Armstrong Custer — all in plastic, in 54mm, and actually looking like the personalities they are supposed to represent? These are the most original, creative sculpts for the American Civil War we’ve had in years — possibly since Marx came out with its initial line of Blue and Gray playsets.
I’m as excited about these releases as I am about the upcoming Midwest Toy Soldier Show (Lafayette, Indiana) coming up in 90 days on April 8.
I picked up the Civil War sets and was anxious to compare them with other “54mm” figures. First, the bases are thick, but you can remove half of the thickness which lowers them about 1-2 mm. If you removed the bases altogether and mounted them on .020 styrene, you definitely got the 2 mm reduction. There is noticeable size differences among the 8 figures in the sets. Custer, Stuart and Hood are the largest. Stuart is about as tall as the 60mm marx but he is chunky. His head is larger than most of the 60mm guys. Lee is probabaly the “smallest” of the figures. He is just a hair taller than the Marx First issue union officer . Lee is the same height as the Accurate Union general but Lee is just a slimmer figure. The greatest differences are between the bulky Stuart and significantly smaller proportioned and shorter lee. Most of the remaining chin figures are about the same body porportions as the Accurate union general, but again, the thick bases make the Chin soldiers a bit higher. Remove the thickness of the bases and they match the Accurate general nearly perfectly. The drawn swords on the Chin Figures have very thick blades. The scabbards are a bit heavy too but not as noticable. I replaced all of the blades on the drawn weapons. The shoulder straps on the union men are a little thick. Looks lie somebody really tried to make these figures look like the men they are representing. In theroy, Lincoln should be the tallest of these guys but Stuart and Custer are taller and much chunkyer. One more compariosn, the Lee and Grant from the cheaper BMC civil war sets are about the same heigh and porportions as most of the figures, except the larger ones I mentioned earlier. I painted mine and they are generally some of the best detailed and proportioned figures I have. They put some of my metal guys to shame.
Wow .it lookd a lot work rema king then ..interesting.
And not quite in scale but I guess some charters may be taller than others
My only quibble with the BMC Lee/Grant figures (I agree they are excellent) is that Grant is as tall as Lee when really Lee was tall for the era and Grant stood about 5’8 as I recall. But minor compared to some efforts to replicate him. I thought about using the Marx Grant with the BMC Lee…
Any wotd on when the mounted sets arw expected in the US?
Good point about the real heights of those generals. With that in mind, Lincoln should be the tallest, then I think Lee, and I am not sure beyond that other than as already pointed out, Grant would be on the shorter end But again, in the set, Custer and Stuart are the largest in the set. Ref the BMC comparison, the Grant in the chintoys set is really detailed. I like him better than the B MC guy although The cigar was a nice twist. The Chin lee is well detailed but small proportioned. His head looks too small for his body but that head looks like lee. It is an excellent representation. The chin Grant looks pretty good standing next to the bmc lee.
Any word on when the mounted sets will be in?
Good point about the real heights of those generals. With that in mind, Lincoln should be the tallest, then I think Lee, and I am not sure beyond that other than as already pointed out, Grant would be on the shorter end But again, in the set, Custer and Stuart are the largest in the set. Ref the BMC comparison, the Grant in the chintoys set is really detailed. I like him better than the B MC guy although The cigar was a nice twist. The Chin lee is well detailed but small proportioned. His head looks too small for his body but that head looks like lee. It is an excellent representation. The chin Grant looks pretty good standing next to the bmc lee.
Any word on when the mounted sets will be in?