One of our very good friends from Germany Markus Leckscheid has sent us pictures of Blue Box The Stagecoach West. The stagecoach is a copy of the Britains stagecoach. One interesting note it says made in Singapore.
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Meta
Above model is super high value by BB collectors, were limited produced and only sold with one playset too(western 101-town pieces not in smaller 50 pieces )
Nido was Singapore producer line factory of Blue Box, it distribute most to Australia-NZ,Japan, and Europe-not UK.
While HK factories(two) produce and sent to UK and South America-Caribbean most
Nido with Cragstan took over moldS and produced later after using already over used and waste original BB mold, also later cloned in downsized many molds.
BB did an entire western line of coach and wagon(included jail),copies of Timpo with timpo swap type horses. The line very similar to timpo with few mix details from each other. The BB-timpo copies box were later sold under HK generic brands, it had the collection depicted in back with all models
Erwin
Do you know it Cragstan was the same company that made the tin litho battery operated robots.
Yes indeed; they sold the rights to HK other firms later, I had seen same older tin toys copied by no only HK factories in the 80’s but now some Chinese firm ,just with different art paint. They had a another factory in japan ,that part of it transfer to Singapore other was bought with some mold by Japanese toy maker. It was the late Cragstan ,not early that took the BB mold and sill are seen with Blue box logo in front and back corner ( Cragstan Inc. Singapore). Now what I don’t know if they pass it to Nido or was other way around.I will do some research on that
Him
With your information and Erwin’s we are getting a good idea of what went on. They were smart to job some of their lines.
Him
I am taking down your post we are not going to have flame war. Erwin is also been ask to drop the subject and I am delete that post as well
I recently bought a red stagecoach like this at a train show. No box or figures, one small piece broken off the rail. Otherwise pretty good condition-still has the gold stickers on the doors and the strip above the doors. Two holes for some type of accessory on the boot/luggage area at the rear, but no accessories. Horses, hitch/chains, and base for horses in good condition. What does “super high value” mean. Thanks! Mike
I just picked one of these up at the market about 3 weeks ago. I thought that it was a Timpo copy and almost passed it up. But a closer look made me think that it was a Britains copy. So, I piced it up.
Right on the top of the coach it’s marked BLUE BOX on one side and SINGAPORE on the other side. It’s also marked on the bottom of the coach.
I got this with about a dozen various figures for a buck. I’m going to take some pix of the cool finds that I’ve made this year and pass them on to Paul. I find some amazing 50’s plastic at my place.
So just how rare are these?
very odd and hard to find in states than UK,Australia or S. America. International collectors value them more depending in quality, if in box in good condition will be better.
Bill
I would agree with Erwin. The stagecoach will not have as big as a demand here as aboard.
How much should this sell for? I just found a very nice one still in the box.